First clay sporting gun

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Hello Guys

As the title states, I want to buy a shot gun for clay games, not sure which game type I should play with, going to try all of them out of course.

read some review and tips here and there, had my eye on Beretta XCEL SPORTING 12G 3" 30" barrel with kick off and easy to remove choke.

My question is , will this gun serve me well in clay games for beginner ? Other than the blue colour on the receiver, I liked it.

please let me hear your input.

Thank you

M
 
Good choice and a gun that I would own if I didn't already have a couple of Beretta 391s. My only question would be the Kick-Off. Some people like them and others don't including me. See if you can try one out before buying. Other than that I think it's a great gun to shoot all the games.
 
its is a recoil reducer using gas pistons and it reduces recoil. Personally am not a huge fan of that particular gimmick. I say that b/c i had one and it did not work that great on light target loads. I do have the A400 extreme though and shooting 3.5" black cloud does make a difference and you notice it then. I did a comparison using a A400 unico (not the extreme) with the kick off and a Benelli Montefeltro (semai auto - non gas) with a limbsaver recoil pad and i would have to say that the recoil was marginally lighter on the Benelli. Therefore, why spend the extra 3-400 bones on kickoff for a trap gun when a 30-$40 limbsaver pad does the same (even with the inertia vs the gas autoloader), IMHO.
for what it is worth, a few other guys thought the same.
 
If you want a gun for shooting clays, get a gun designed for shooting clays. If you are shooting clays to practice your wing shooting for hunting, then use the gun you plan to hunt with.

For clays guns, find a semi auto or double that fits you and your budget....there are tons of options out there, and unless you are looking to get really serious about clays shooting (competitions etc), then you really aren't going to notice the minor differences that each model offers.
 
I shot a "loaner" with Kick Off last year and loved it. Just bought an Xcel today without kickoff. Great clays gun. It fits me perfectly
 
first skeet gun..... it depends how much time you want to spend at the range..... A400 390 391...are all #1 choices but with out at least 100 rounds every week you will not be good enough to see a big difference just feel the difference in recoil.....
 
if you are going once a month get a cheep shotgun to have fun with..... every week spend the money...lol but there is no gun that can replace....practice...
 
For a budget entry O/U I'm looking at either a Mossberg silver reserve II, Legacy Escort, or Savage Stevens 512 GW. Anyone have advice on any of these models? I would think any of them would be good starter guns for trap and skeet?
 
Duke G.

I would avoid any of those guns you mentioned, every one that has tried one of those at our club has had a lot of break downs after not much shooting. you would be way better off to look for a used browning Citori that would probably last a life time.
 
If you don't plan shooting doubles, any cheap pump action with removable chokes will do the job. Personally I don't shoot doubles and I have a Remington 870 wingmaster 28". It's funny to see guys with high end shotgun scoring at 14-15..... My friend shoot with an ####ing old shotgun and he score 23-24-25 almost everytime.

Shooting clay isn't my favorite shooting sport, so for me 3000$ shotgun is a waste, but an 4500$ AR15 is better :)
 
I shoot with a Benelli Supersport and loved it. I have put through over 8000 rounds through mine and not a jam or misfire. And because the benelli is inertia driven, cleaning is really easy and fast. Recoil is really soft as well. But everyone have their own preference and I know a few shooters at our club that are using the Beretta A400 Xcel and they loved it.

My only advice is to stay away from cheap O/U and semi-auto...had a really bad experience with a stoeger condor. I was lucky that I was able to return it to the store.
 
One look at the rack at a major Sporting Clays shoot will soon convince you that Beretta's are
by and large, the first choice in an auto-loader. If you don't like the blue receiver on the A400
try and find a 391. The Parallel Target 391 is a very popular and reliable Sporter.
 
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