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So I am finally ready to buy something that is not a plinker or milsurp. I have been doing a lot of research and have come to the conclusion that a 30.06 is the rifle for me. Partially due to the different grain sizes you can get for them. They just seem like I could hunt deer with a 150Gr or moose with the 220Gr. I am very new at the sport of shooting so any help or advice on this would be huge. I should say I am not looking to spend more than $400 and would really like to find something used and preferably older. Thanks
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30.06 is a good choice with a huge selection of rounds as well as a big market of new and used rifles. IMO a good round is a 180gr for both moose and deer. You will never have to switch bullets or re-sight your scope. One round does it all.
 
unless you're left handed, the first centre fire should be an 06 or 308 bolt of some type- the 180 grain slug is all that's necessary for just about anything but big bears- learn how to use that properly, and it'll be your friend for years- the only reason i mention the left handed caveat is that the left handed actions are hard to come by, if not darned near impossible, or the company doesn't make it in the caliber you want- that's when you go lever, semi, or pump
 
Your research has done you well, the .30-06 is a great all around hunting rifle. I don't know what to tell you about your budget for a used gun though. $400 will get you a decent shooter, but the scope might be less than desirable.

Savage has the 111F combo brand new for a little over $400 depending on the store. Comes with a 3-9x40 Bushnell that would probably last until you can grab something better. Can't complain with these rifles either, known to be accurate, and function without problems.
 
I already have a fairly decent scope, so the $400 is for the rifle alone. Savage is definitly high on my list. Any other recommendations or stuff to stay away from?
 
Forget the savage and take a look at the Marlin XL-7. Better trigger, better stock, better recoil pad, just as/if not more accurate than the savage.

Only (possible) downside is the blind mag on the marlin (I'm OK with that, I don't care much for detachable mags)
 
My advice is to look on the T.E.C. Trade Ex website. They have lots of the Husqvarna 1600 series rifles in .30-06. These are extremely high quality rifles that are used, older and in your price range.
 
Well - Have you actually shot a 30-06, or has all your research been on the internet? A lot of folks make the mistake of getting a hunting rifle with too much recoil - which proves to be a liability in the long term.
I shoot a fair amount. A few years ago, I was asked to sight in a buddies 30-06, in a light sporting rifle configuration. It was punishing to shoot, to the point I was starting to develop a flinch. Never again...
My preferred calibres are 6.5X55, 7X57, and 303B. While you're your looking at the Tradex site, have a look at the 6.5's..
 
For first rifle, personally I would go to a hunting type store and go and handle a few and get the feel for what fits your frame best and feels comfortable to you.

Caliber is a formality , they almost all do the job as long as the shooter hits his target.Don't let caliber limit your options for good deals and availability.

Bullet choice is more important than caliber choice.Something that you can shoot well is the most important factor.

To give you a caliber suggestion, anything that starts in the .257 , 6.5mm range will do well. 257 Roberts, 260 Rem, 6.5 x 55 , 7mm-08, etc..............

Practice and have fun.
 
Well - Have you actually shot a 30-06, or has all your research been on the internet? A lot of folks make the mistake of getting a hunting rifle with too much recoil - which proves to be a liability in the long term.
I shoot a fair amount. A few years ago, I was asked to sight in a buddies 30-06, in a light sporting rifle configuration. It was punishing to shoot, to the point I was starting to develop a flinch. Never again...
My preferred calibres are 6.5X55, 7X57, and 303B. While you're your looking at the Tradex site, have a look at the 6.5's..

a good deal of that has to do with the loading as well- an 06 with a PROPERLY configured STOCK may actually generate LESS recoil than some of the others you mentioned- esp with the "light " 150 grain loadings- and a lot of those are at their top end loadings ( weight wise) at or near 150 grains, which is what i feel comfortable with for deer- on;y- big mulies, elk and moose require 180s- if deer are your ONLY consideration, then your conclusions are correct- the NICE thing about the 06 or the 308 for that matter, is you can load up or down according to waht you want to do- all the way from 110 grains to 220- and if you find the recoil heavy, you can add a muzzle break and or a past pad
you can also get ammo just about everywhere; everybody and his dog carries 30 cal- start getting into the "oddball" stuff and some of it is RELOADING ONLY'
 
Well - Have you actually shot a 30-06, or has all your research been on the internet? A lot of folks make the mistake of getting a hunting rifle with too much recoil - which proves to be a liability in the long term.
I shoot a fair amount. A few years ago, I was asked to sight in a buddies 30-06, in a light sporting rifle configuration. It was punishing to shoot, to the point I was starting to develop a flinch. Never again...
My preferred calibres are 6.5X55, 7X57, and 303B. While you're your looking at the Tradex site, have a look at the 6.5's..

My first (center fire) rifle was a .30-06 as well. It can be a pretty heavy hitter to practice with. Providing you've done lots of plinking and milsurp shooting, it should do you great. If you'll be practicing a lot with it (you should, but most of your shooting is best to be rimfire for various reasons) then the suggestion of something like 6.5x55 or the .308 class of cartridges might be slightly better for you. But seems you're on the right general track.

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All of the advice with regard to calibre is right on the money 308 / 3006. Good arguments either way. If you live in western canada...go 3006. Eastern Canada 308.

Savage vs Marlin vs Remington...Ford vs Chev vs Dodge.

Leupold 1.5 -5 - $400

You are done at that point.

Buy a ton of ammo...go to the range and practice.

One you burn the barrrel out... then its time to build a custom rifle....But thats another post.
 
Really, you can find nice 303's for cheap and have a ton of money left over for ammo. The recoil of a 303 in minimal (the ones i have). A 308 has less recoil than an 06 and is plenty for moose and probably one of the most hunted calibres next to the 06. I have an o6 semi and bolt. the semi has way less recoil. That all I have to say about that.
 
Really, you can find nice 303's for cheap and have a ton of money left over for ammo. The recoil of a 303 in minimal (the ones i have). A 308 has less recoil than an 06 and is plenty for moose and probably one of the most hunted calibres next to the 06. I have an o6 semi and bolt. the semi has way less recoil. That all I have to say about that.

unless you buy a JUNGLE CARBINE- then you're barking up a whole different tree altogether- that "recoil pad" is SOLID HARD RUBBER, that short barrel makes it kick, and the whole thing, whike ###y looking, shoots like somebody's mean old grandma- they're ACCURATE, however-
 
All of the advice with regard to calibre is right on the money 308 / 3006. Good arguments either way. If you live in western canada...go 3006. Eastern Canada 308.

Savage vs Marlin vs Remington...Ford vs Chev vs Dodge.

Leupold 1.5 -5 - $400

You are done at that point.

Buy a ton of ammo...go to the range and practice.

One you burn the barrrel out... then its time to build a custom rifle....But thats another post.

the 308 is fine for western canada too- you DO realise that there's only 200 fps between the 2 and all of 9 yards of point blank range- 267 vs 276- morevover, i've been at this game since 71, and all i've ever had was a savage 99 in 308-
 
Don't let them scare you from the .30-06 recoil. Last summer I bought a Savage 111 in .300 Win. Mag. and the new factory recoil pad Savage issues is actually better than the Sims Limbsaver on my Tikka T3 .300 Win. Mag.

Trading the Savage is how I got the Tikka T3, not because of any functioning issues. Did the swap for the looks, action, and a small increase in accuracy. If I had to start all over again on a smaller budget, I'd buy a brand new Savage before a fancy used rifle without question.
 
You can't go wrong with a .30/06, its my favorite cartridge. But you could go wrong by choosing an ultra light rifle if you want something for regular shooting as well as hunting. A .30/06 that weighs less than 7 pounds and comes with a hollow plastic stock will leave you punchy after just a few rounds of 180 gr factory ammo. On that note, if you intend to get into handloading, you can load your ammo to fit your comfort level, then over time, you can increase the power as you become conditioned to it. I loaded up some 130 gr bullets at 2600 for both my grandson and my nephew, and both of them found that the ’06 could be a pleasure to shoot. My nephew took a couple of deer with that load.

With a small budget, the advantages of purchasing a used high quality rifle cannot be over stated. $400 won't get you a used pre-64 M-70, but it will get you any number of Husqvarna M-1600 commercial sporters. These rifles are great quality and if they were still manufactured today would command big dollars.

Tradex has a wide selection, perhaps a bewildering selection is a better description of their online store. But if you take your time and browse through the pages you'll find the right rifle for you. You can take the rifle’s condition from Tradex to the bank, if anything it will be understated. If a rifle needs work, they tell you. One of these rifles is a much better investment that the bargain basement selections offered on the North American market.

You should invest in a good quality recoil pad like a Limb saver or a Decelerator, just to make shooting those long strings a little more comfortable, particularly in warm weather when you would shoot without wearing a jacket. The proper fit between a shooter and his rifle is all important, and the addition of the recoil pad presents the opportunity to take that step.

So there you go, you've decided on your cartridge, and now you are a step closer to a semi-custom rifle, even though its on a small budget.
 
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