First hunting rifle.

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So im looking at getting my first hunting rifle in the next few weeks. im limited on what i can spend for this season so i was thinking of getting a savage 11/1111 trophy hunter XP w/ accutrigger chambered in .308. it comes with a scope which im sure is nothing spectacular but its a fairly cheap package at 510$. Next year i will have a nice rifle/scop combo. just trying to get out for this season. problem is they dont have one in .308 at the store. im thinking 270 would be ok for what i will be doin with it. Deer hunting and hopefully whatever if any i get in LE draw. thoughts?
 
It's a good rifle and the .308Winchester is a good general purpose big game cartridge. The .270Winchester will do just as well. (There are more bullet choices in .30 calibre, but you aren't marrying this thing.)

The basic action of that rifle is a long-running successful Savage design that is well catered-to by the aftermarket so you won't have trouble upgrading it later with a stock you may like better.

The same action is in the Stevens 200 which will be cheaper and you can spend some of the savings on a better scope. It will have a basic trigger though, (adjustable, but not as easily adjustable by the user,) but there are aftermarket triggers, too.

Having said all that, you may well find that a Savage package rifle serves you well for a long life of hunting, just as it comes off the shelf. It really depends on your tastes and inclinations.
 
Of course you will. The .270 Win will do anything the .308 Win will do and more.


And less. What it will do less of is offer a choice of projectiles. I don't mean no choice, or even not enough choice - there are certainly enough traditional and high-tech premium bullet choices in .270 for hunting all N.American big game, just that the .308 offers an even bigger choice. That will only become important later, if at all, when you will have acquired more guns anyway. The .270Win is a very popular choice for good, sound reasons.
 
When you can accomplish anything in the hunting world with a 130 grain NP, why complain about a lack of versatility? If you want a long range target rifle you'll need a 26"-30" bull barrel for that anyway.

The .270 may be the best all around choice period. It can do everything from varmints to elk with one load at serious ranges, and not kick you out from under your hat doing it. It is accurate and amenable to the user. Many veteran shooters come to this conclusion after years of shooting everything else.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ross-seyfried-busting-the-magnum-myth/
http://montanaelkhunting.########.ca/2009/12/270-winchester-for-elk-hunting.html

John Barsness said:
If forced to pick one whitetail round, for all use everywhere, it would probably be something around the .270 Winchester. This could be a 6.5x55 with 120-grain bullets or a .308 with 150's, but the ballistics would hover right there.
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/newsletters/December_2008.html
 
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If I were getting my first rifle again, it would be a .308 or a .300 Savage.

The advice to get a Stevens and to have more money left over for the scope is a really, really good thought. If you can get yourself a Leupold VX-1 or Bushnell 3200 that would be a good start. Getting a better scope will have waaaay more impact on your success than the choice between .270 and .308.

RG

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The Savage 111 packages are a good starter. The scope is the weak link but will be fine for the time being but it would be my first recommendation when upgrading.
For the beginner, 270, 30-06 or 308 are all good choices.
 
I would p.m. this fine gent and do some graceful schmoooooozing.
This would last you a life time.
Then go find a scope in the EE for a couple hundred bucks.
There are some generous folk on here that would flip over backwards
to move a new hunter out in the woods.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?898777-Parker-Hale-1100-Keep-or-Sell

Forgot to mention.......the quality on this rifle would be far superior than those new plastikie pick up sticks.
It would sure be a conversation piece around a camp fire too.
Good luck.
 
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