First long gun purchase etiquette

A few years back in Ottawa a guy was walking down the street with a "bullet belt (dummy rounds used as a belt)" and had Ottawa ERT deployed and was arrested. He was later released without charges being filed.

Its scary what can happen with someone is un-informed.

I completely agree, having the action open or bolt pulled is good. Its a practice I got myself into when I first started shooting.
 
Dakk said:
Was a bit curious about this remark.

To my knowledge, if the rifle is unloaded, and you're carrying it, there shouldn't be any real legal issues with carrying it to the vehicle, or transporting it home. I can see why people might want it covered, boxed or in a case. But from what I understand about transporting firearms, it only has to be out of sight if you leave the firearm unattended in your locked vehicle. Even then, covering it with a blanket is considered 'out of sight'. Otherwise, you can hang that sucker in your rear window gun rack and drive around with it in plain view. Probably best if the action is open, and gun is deactivated, for instance by removing the bolt if its a bolt action.

Any other thoughts on this issue? Am I wrong? If you think so, please provide proof, thanks.



I did some checking online, and there is a law that applies to business that non-restricted firearms be transported in an opaque container. But I can't find anything that requires individuals (non-businesses) to do so.



http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/page-4.html
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Wrapping a firearm in a blanket is considered "concealing", a big no-no.

Case-law already exists on this very subject.
 
I think what he meant was while its is in the car, having a blanket over top of it meets the defination the RCMP says is out of sight.

I am not sure if its a true statement, but thats the way I read it.
 
Apollyon said:
I have had nothing but negative experiences with the people at BassPro. I am officially boycotting that store and I will be writing them to let them know why. Go to LeBaron instead. They are good people there, they will take care of you. The guys at BassPro treat you like they are doing you a big favor instead of the other way around.
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ditto, bass pro gun folks are jerks.
 
Careful you may have opened Pandora's box with your first purchase, I did the same a few years ago a and now my gun safe is too small. Sometimes you need that other rifle or shotgun other times it's just too good a deal to pass by.

Good luck, and by a safe that way too big for what you need.
 
firemachine69 said:
Wrapping a firearm in a blanket is considered "concealing", a big no-no.

Case-law already exists on this very subject.
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I suspect you may be thinking of a circumstance where a person is walking around with the firearm.

Unattended in a vehicle it has to be kept out of sight (concealed) to meet the laws requirements, and one of the CFSC videos actually uses a blanket to demonstrate covering a rifle to meet the laws criteria that it be kept out of sight, in the case of a vehicle with no trunk, which is what I had in mind.

It is an interesting point though in a situation where a person is walking from the store where they picked up a firearm, to their vehicle. The business laws require that a firearm be transported in an opaque case, while the laws for individuals do not. I wonder it could be argued that walking outside with your rifle in a soft case (or box) could also considered 'concealing'. I wonder where they distinguish between wrapping it in something or zipping it up in a soft case.
 
All the best with your 597. I have 2 of them althought get used to the jamming or find a new extractor. I'm on the verge of buying my first ruger 10/22 this weekend. I was in to sail awhile back and found a new turkey shotgun cheaper there than anywhere else, including epps. The service was great as well. I'd buy fri sail again and avoid basspro for firearms. I buy stuff there but get better service elsewhere.
Enjoy the purchase and buy 2 safes as they will be full before you know it.
 
I have carried them in/out in soft cases no prob. Carried them out in cardboard boxes, no prob. I dont see any issue here as long as it is unloaded with a lock on it.

As for LeB, maybe the guys at Woodbine are ok but the guys at Dundas and Dixie are dicks
Went to Basspro 3x's in one trip - it was my first time, my last time and my only time I will ever be in that store. TOTAL morons at the gun desk. My kid knows more about firearms then they do, not to mention customer service.....
 
Why is there lots of comments here about having NR unloaded AND trigger locked. Unloaded is all that matters. Trigger lock is not required for transport.
 
Qhergt said:
Why is there lots of comments here about having NR unloaded AND trigger locked. Unloaded is all that matters. Trigger lock is not required for transport.
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Exactly. The issue was more about whether the firearm should be inside something when you leave the store, as raised by the OP in his intiial comment. I think the bottom line is that it doesn't need to be. As long as it is unloaded, you're meeting the criteria for transporting. But its still probably a good idea for it to be in a proper box. Plus its always good to go beyond the immedate requirements of the law by using a trigger lock or locked case.
 
Qhergt said:
Why is there lots of comments here about having NR unloaded AND trigger locked. Unloaded is all that matters. Trigger lock is not required for transport.
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No, it's not required, but so many officials expect it to be trigger locked, it's worth having just to avoid any flack.

Every firearm I own has a combo trigger lock on it. That way, when I cross the border, or check in at an airport, and I'm asked if it's trigger locked I always answer in the affirmative.

It's one fight I'm not prepared to fight.

Just try arguing with a border guard, and you'll find yourself turned around going the other way.

Choose your wars.
 
Doug The Canuck said:
No, it's not required, but so many officials expect it to be trigger locked, it's worth having just to avoid any flack.

Every firearm I own has a combo trigger lock on it. That way, when I cross the border, or check in at an airport, and I'm asked if it's trigger locked I always answer in the affirmative.

It's one fight I'm not prepared to fight.

Just try arguing with a border guard, and you'll find yourself turned around going the other way.

Choose your wars.
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For flying and border crossing trigger locking is a no-brainer. Some people should have mouth locks for when they go through customs too.

Heading off to the range or some property though I don't bother. NR's go unloaded, in a case and in the trunk. I have yet to be pulled over on route to the range but, I'm not too concerned if I ever am.
 
igojuone said:
Careful you may have opened Pandora's box with your first purchase, I did the same a few years ago a and now my gun safe is too small. Sometimes you need that other rifle or shotgun other times it's just too good a deal to pass by.

Good luck, and by a safe that way too big for what you need.
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:agree: I bought a safe a few years back. Now I have to move guns around depending on what I'm reaching for. It's an excellent safe but it could be a foot wider.
 
I drove my shotgun back to the US to get it worked on. I declared it at the border and the US agent couldnt care less. Didnt hassle me, ask for paperwork, ask to see it or anything.

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xp190 said:
Hi Guys

I just got my R/PAL, took the course in Feb, sent papers in end of March, got the license last week.

So now I'm thinking of buying my first gun, but I don't know how it works.
I was thinking of going to Bass Pro Shops in Vaughn and picking up a Ruger 10/22.

I have never seen anyone buy a gun, or have any clue as to what I should expect as far as ID, and so on.

How does it work exactly?

I go up to a counter and ask to see a Ruger 10/22, the guy makes sure it's unloaded and hands it to me to check out? That leaves him right in front of me, to the side more customers, I can't point the gun at anyone to see how it feels now can I?

What about ammo? I guess you order and pick up at the counter as you walk out? Do long guns come in not too revealing boxes? I can't carry it in plain sight to my car.

I'm pretty sure this is all straight forward, but I'm just curious how the process works in a relatively crowded store.

Cheers!

xp
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The only thing I see wrong here is, do not point it at anyone, for any reason... not even if it is unloaded.. It is a federal offence and you can go to jail.

You can point it at a wall.... best choice would be the wall behind the gun counter...

as for carrying it out... 9 times out of 10, if it is brand new, it will have a box... yes it will have a manufactures name on it... but so what... as long as it is not loaded and you have your pal... walking out of the store to your car is totally legal.

HAPPY SHOOTING!!!!!!
 
They were more interested in ascertaining where it was purchased than in the fact that I had a shotgun in the back. They asked if I had a PAL, but didn't ask to see it. I did bring the original receipt. They didn't even look at the gun to match the serial numbers.

Might have helped that I have NEXUS but didn't use the Nexus lane because you can't declare firearms using the NEXUS lane.

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Noltz said:
Interested on what the Canadian border guards say coming back.
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