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Hey Everyone,

got my RPAL about 1 month ago now, and after talking with my grandpa he wants me to take his 1915 Colt New Service. He hasn't fired it in years, and I am going to take him out with it after I get it cleaned up and find some ammo. Just curious and want to make sure I have all the steps needed.

The gun was registered by him in the 70's with the RCMP, so there should be no issues there. As far as I can tell we will both need to call the Alberta CFO to get this approved, and then I can get my ATT to bring it home? I am going to get an Associate membership for now at a local range so that there are no issues there. If I am missing anything, please let me know!! Not sure yet if it is chambered in the original .455 Eley or if it got changed to .45 Colt as I hear this was common. Once I get it I will definitely post some pics as well!

Thanks in advance.
 
kragnorok said:
The gun was registered by him in the 70's with the RCMP, so there should be no issues there.
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So the gun has no current registration slip?

kragnorok said:
Also, forgot to mention, I don't believe he has a PAL or any license like that. Is that going to cause a problem?
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Potentially, you've got an unregistered restricted firearm (the new registry expired all of the older green 301/302 forms), from an unlicensed owner...that could be problematic. You might want to do a search in the Leaglese forum, its not an uncommon occurrence. Since your grandfather is still alive, a 12.7 transfer is out of the question.
 
My advice ( by getting BAD info from Miramichi at the outset) ---

Call (from a public payphone) your Provincial CFO (not Miramichi) because it is up to the CFO of the Province to OK the final transfer. Call them from a pay phone, and describe the model, age, yr, and barrel legth. Etc. and discuss the registration "issue".

If YOU are completely satisfied that you are getting the right answers, then you can be a bit more open with info
 
A 12.7(12/6) transfer doesn't apply anyway. A 1915 Colt New Service isn't prohibited.
Grandpa can still will it to you while he's still with you. Even though it's technically unregistered. If he has anymore firearms, transfer 'em all to you. You talk to the CFC.
"...in the original .455 Eley or..." Depends on who issued it. Canada bought a bunch of 'em in .45 Colt in 1899 for the Boer War. U.S. used 'em in .45 Colt too, of course.
 
Hey Sunray, thanks for this information. Thanks to everyone so far as well. So pretty much I can just call the CFC and let him know the registration etc. and it shouldn't be that big of a deal being only restricted and not prohibited? Just a simple transfer? Sorry for asking too many questions, just don't want to do anything to get either party involved in any trouble.
 
kragnorok said:
Hey Sunray, thanks for this information. Thanks to everyone so far as well. So pretty much I can just call the CFC and let him know the registration etc. and it shouldn't be that big of a deal being only restricted and not prohibited? Just a simple transfer? Sorry for asking too many questions, just don't want to do anything to get either party involved in any trouble.
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Read the advice above, and then go down that route.

If it's an unregistered restricted firearm, being currently possessed without a valid RPAL you could be in for some trouble.
The 70's registration, and registration under C68 are two different things. You need a current, valid cert for the firearm.
 
Ok well, hypothetically some situations then. What if I was to wait until the time (god forbid) it legally has to go through his will. Would there be less issues then? I really don't want to cause any issues at all for anyone in my family at this time if I can avoid it. I realize the method Noway123 mentioned may yield the best results, what would happen if it was attempted to be registered by my grandfather, would he need a RPAL at that point to do it under the new act (obviously I would think so, but I am still learning the legalese of this all).

Thanks again for any information everyone, I just want to make sure this is done the correct way obviously.
 
I think your best bet, would be to do the payphone idea... That seems to me, like fairly thin ice to go run across. Because there's two things I'd keep in mind. The Gov' doesn't acknowledge that non-registered, non-licensed people can have access to guns. So informing them of this, I could see a fine and confiscation issue. It'd be retarded but.. so is C68. The other way, and much happier train of thought, would be that they will jump with joy that you so happily followed all the proper steps and register it to you with a big 'thank you'....

I hate to be a pessimist, but I know if I was in your shoes, which one I anticipate.
 
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