i bought a flint lock rifle from caywood guns, when it came to mail it to canada, the shipper run into trouble, no tracking #to canada, no registered mail to canada, confiscation, if broken in transit, so we mailed the gun to a company near the border who called me when they recieved it, i went across and picked it up stopped and showed it to canada customs, who gave no hassel very nice service and was back in canada in 15 minutes, if you want to know where and when email me , whlehto@shaw.ca
flinter crossing the border
- Thread starter wade
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- Location
- Hillbilly shack in the boonies
Its a flintlock
In reply to earlier comments made on the subject; modern flintlock and matchlock and wheel lock long arms are considered antiques under Canadian law. to be specific cc84 1(b) says any gun proscribed to be an antique is an antique, and SOR 98-464 includes the above as an antique. cc84 3 says that antiques are not firearms and do not have to be registered.
I think it is illegal to mail a gun accross the border from either direction, although many people do it. It is legal to mail a gun within a country however.
It is also possible that a courier service was involved somehow in the potential border crossing and the major couriers do not move guns accross the border.
cheers mooncoon
I think it is illegal to mail a gun accross the border from either direction, although many people do it. It is legal to mail a gun within a country however.
It is also possible that a courier service was involved somehow in the potential border crossing and the major couriers do not move guns accross the border.
cheers mooncoon
this is as doug said the couriers were the problem , as flintlocks are not guns in the u.s. all you need is your pal to have it in canada, flintlock rifles are not registered, anyway i had a problem and put this up for your info, if you want my experience or if i can help call, i had another come through the mail last year and i thought no problem , but not this year, wade
- Location
- Thunder Bay ON Canada
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4227/rc4227-e.html
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
Did no one think to go onto the Canada Customs Website?
Antique firearms
Antique firearms are firearms:
manufactured before 1898 that were not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition and that have not been redesigned to discharge such ammunition; or
prescribed in Canadian law to be antique firearms.
If you are a Canadian resident or a visitor to Canada, you can import firearms that are considered to be antiques under the Firearms Act and regulations. You do not need to register antique firearms, nor do owners of antique firearms need licences.
We consider reproductions of flintlock, wheel-lock, or matchlock firearms, other than handguns, that were manufactured after 1897, to be antiques even though they may have been manufactured very recently. However, we treat reproductions of more up-to-date firearms, beginning with percussion cap, muzzle-loading rifles such as the Springfield rifles (the originals of which would have been used in the American Civil War), as firearms. These reproductions have to be registered if they will be staying in Canada, and owners of these non-exempt reproductions need firearms licences. Visitors to Canada importing reproductions that are not flintlocks, wheel-locks, or matchlocks should be prepared to have these reproductions dealt with as firearms.
Lazy, lazy, lazy.
Did no one think to go onto the Canada Customs Website?
Antique firearms
Antique firearms are firearms:
manufactured before 1898 that were not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition and that have not been redesigned to discharge such ammunition; or
prescribed in Canadian law to be antique firearms.
If you are a Canadian resident or a visitor to Canada, you can import firearms that are considered to be antiques under the Firearms Act and regulations. You do not need to register antique firearms, nor do owners of antique firearms need licences.
We consider reproductions of flintlock, wheel-lock, or matchlock firearms, other than handguns, that were manufactured after 1897, to be antiques even though they may have been manufactured very recently. However, we treat reproductions of more up-to-date firearms, beginning with percussion cap, muzzle-loading rifles such as the Springfield rifles (the originals of which would have been used in the American Civil War), as firearms. These reproductions have to be registered if they will be staying in Canada, and owners of these non-exempt reproductions need firearms licences. Visitors to Canada importing reproductions that are not flintlocks, wheel-locks, or matchlocks should be prepared to have these reproductions dealt with as firearms.
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While that may be the official word, it is not the complete picture. In my experience, Can Customs has told me to declare antiques as firearms when transporting them accross the border and to take them in for inspection. The office staff that I dealt with were pleasant but unknowledgeable of Canadian firearms law and only reluctantly accepted the print out I had of the pertinent sections of the firearms act.
Bottom line is that if you are personally transporting the gun, take a printout of the law with you or a copy of the Statutes of Canada containing same and if necessary ask to speak to a supervisor. Expect that the customs people may not know what a flintlock is nor be able to distinguish between pre and post 1898 and further may even direct you to a chief of police (incorrectly) for a determination of the status of the gun.
cheers mooncoon
Bottom line is that if you are personally transporting the gun, take a printout of the law with you or a copy of the Statutes of Canada containing same and if necessary ask to speak to a supervisor. Expect that the customs people may not know what a flintlock is nor be able to distinguish between pre and post 1898 and further may even direct you to a chief of police (incorrectly) for a determination of the status of the gun.
cheers mooncoon
juanvaldez
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Sudbury, Ontario
I have had half a dozen flinters shipped by usps no problem
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flinter cross the border
the point really was .irregardless of my past experience with border crossing, i just tried to mail a flinter across the border and had problems with the u.s. mail , couriors etc,never had a problem with the border staff, i think mooncoon has the right idea, dont go on your past exprience as i did,i found myself invested in a u.s, gun for $1000, and wondering know what do i do? it worked out but be careful, do your homework when you are going to ship,call customs, couriers, etc know what you are doing first,,,wade please delete
the point really was .irregardless of my past experience with border crossing, i just tried to mail a flinter across the border and had problems with the u.s. mail , couriors etc,never had a problem with the border staff, i think mooncoon has the right idea, dont go on your past exprience as i did,i found myself invested in a u.s, gun for $1000, and wondering know what do i do? it worked out but be careful, do your homework when you are going to ship,call customs, couriers, etc know what you are doing first,,,wade please delete
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