Flush vs Extended Chokes For Patterning Performance

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I have always preferred extended chokes (found them easier to change and prefer the aesthetics too) but have reason to switch to flush (looking at getting a muzzle brake for one of my competition rigs - brake use is legal in this category and I will take every edge I can find).

Turns of the brake company can accommodate both flush and extended brakes (they offer a shorter model for flush and longer model for extended). The shorter model will be a little lighter but I vaguely remember reading that extended chokes seem to perform a little better than their flush counterparts (something about having a slower taper owing to their longer overall length)

What have others found? Is one better than the other, no difference or does it depend on the firearm?
 
i have found that the marketing mechanisms work great they keep wanna be shooters busy buying which is there goal and it works very will
as for breaking targets at 20yds to 40 yds the only thing a choke does is keeps your mind over thinking the choke you have in the gun when you miss so that works great for the rest of the squad
use what ever you think will give you the upper edge
when you have time watch some world cup shotgun events possibly pic up a few pointers watching them
 
I've found the extended only provide better patterns when chasing the densest tightest pattern by using the most constriction. Example card cutter and turkey chokes.

Sadly my fixed chokes on my vintage guns pattern as good or better than my modern performance oriented guns for the most part.

Extended chokes are nicer to be tooless and offer some protection for the muzzles.

The Carlson extended chokes I have for my beretta ochp dont compare to the factory flush chokes if you're looking for your a400. I've sold or given them all away except the Carlson extended turkey choke. The factory flush full throws a denser better pattern with all ammo ive tried thru it
 
brybenn said:
I've found the extended only provide better patterns when chasing the densest tightest pattern by using the most constriction. Example card cutter and turkey chokes.

Sadly my fixed chokes on my vintage guns pattern as good or better than my modern performance oriented guns for the most part.

Extended chokes are nicer to be tooless and offer some protection for the muzzles.

The Carlson extended chokes I have for my beretta ochp dont compare to the factory flush chokes if you're looking for your a400. I've sold or given them all away except the Carlson extended turkey choke. The factory flush full throws a denser better pattern with all ammo ive tried thru it
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Its even more complicated than that.

My gun started life with a 28" barrel that became a 21" barrel after a trip to Tactical Ordnance. The area where they cut is thin (ie on the edge of enough material to allow for threading for chokes) so it got threaded for Tru Chokes.
 
Extended chokes are more convenient. Easier to get in and out and in most cases you can tell what constriction you have in without pulling the choke or counting notches. There is no patterning advantage that I've found.
 
struff55 said:
i have found that the marketing mechanisms work great they keep wanna be shooters busy buying which is there goal and it works very will
as for breaking targets at 20yds to 40 yds the only thing a choke does is keeps your mind over thinking the choke you have in the gun when you miss so that works great for the rest of the squad
use what ever you think will give you the upper edge
when you have time watch some world cup shotgun events possibly pic up a few pointers watching them
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This firearm is for IPSC duty, not sure I have ever seen a non slug stage with targets more than 20 yards out.

The stages often involve knocking down steel so getting the right balance of energy on target and wide open enough to shoot fast is important.

I haven't seen it in Canada but these events can have penalty targets in close proximity to the actual targets so getting the choke selection right for that scenario is important.
 
Sniffer said:
This firearm is for IPSC duty, not sure I have ever seen a non slug stage with targets more than 20 yards out.

The stages often involve knocking down steel so getting the right balance of energy on target and wide open enough to shoot fast is important.

I haven't seen it in Canada but these events can have penalty targets in close proximity to the actual targets so getting the choke selection right for that scenario is important.
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I keep it simple, run a Mod extended choke in any Tactical shotgun match/stages. It’s very easy to overthink it, if there is a no shoot close to it I simply shoot slightly off centre of target away from the no shoot 🤷‍♂️
I’ve seen guys changing chokes, using breaks etc and honestly don’t see the point, your mileage may vary lol, and I’m certainly not telling you what to do. You will figure out what works for you in competition because we are all different 😊
 
I like extended chokes, as I can easily check the tightness without a wrench, and the chances of one getting stuck is even more remote. My favorite chokes are Muller, they can be tightened and loosened without a wrench, they don't come loose, and they build up far less wad fouling.
 
edgy said:
I keep it simple, run a Mod extended choke in any Tactical shotgun match/stages. It’s very easy to overthink it, if there is a no shoot close to it I simply shoot slightly off centre of target away from the no shoot 🤷‍♂️
I’ve seen guys changing chokes, using breaks etc and honestly don’t see the point, your mileage may vary lol, and I’m certainly not telling you what to do. You will figure out what works for you in competition because we are all different 😊
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An extended Briley Light Modified has been my "Go To" and has served me very well but I have a match in September where the stages are pretty tight (to the point that Improved Cylinder has been suggested).

I have done 6 IPSC shotgun matches in BC and have yet to see a non cardboard penalty target.

To this point my rig has been pretty simple and works great (Tacord VM with dot in Modified class) but its getting old and tired not to mention parts are getting harder to come by so I am doing a new build with ported barrel and plan to try a brake. My new gun shoots super soft anyways but these things cant hurt and I like playing :D
 
Falconflyer said:
Let us know how the brake works. If your talking about a ported choke, they have no recoil arresting qualities or at least very little and basically just make muzzle blast for shooters next to you.
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Nope, its a brake for sure - placed the order at the weekend:

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Along with the ported barrel it should be a very mild shooter

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I found extended tubes to allow for quick change from full to mod or choice of the day when swatting Grouse.
Duck hunting I used modified for everything especially when Steel came into play.
I am no expert nor do I shoot drop n trap or sporting clays.
A well fitted gun ( hard to find on an off the shelf gun) or taking some pointers from a pro offers a better use of ones $$.
Then again if you wanna step up your game and play mind games with your buddies have at 'er and buy the best you can afford.
Rob
 
FLHTCUI said:
I found extended tubes to allow for quick change from full to mod or choice of the day when swatting Grouse.
Duck hunting I used modified for everything especially when Steel came into play.
I am no expert nor do I shoot drop n trap or sporting clays.
A well fitted gun ( hard to find on an off the shelf gun) or taking some pointers from a pro offers a better use of ones $$.
Then again if you wanna step up your game and play mind games with your buddies have at 'er and buy the best you can afford.
Rob
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I personally prefer the look of extended chokes and the ease with which they can be changed. They also offer protection for the muzzle.

To run the brake means swapping to flush chokes so I have some on order. One upside is that flush chokes are much cheaper (around half the price). I also had to source an extended tool to swap the chokes.

Looking forward to some recoil reduction but this gun already shoots very soft in my opinion. Should be like a 22LR with the porting and brake (maybe not quite).

I enjoy playing around with different things (like the brake etc) to see what effect each has, it feeds the nerd in me.
 
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