FN FAL c1a1/l1a1 question

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I understand that stupidly I can only buy a dew at, however my intent is to have a Canadian/ commonwealth imperial FN to keep at my friends place in the US. My question is did all the FN c1a1/l1a1 rifles have the upper receivers welded or was it just the lowers? I would prefer to buy a dew at with a usable upper and then buy a imperial lower down in the US this would be cheeper then buying the complete FAL in the US.
 
On the FAL the Upper is the gun - you can have as many lowers as you want, but the upper is the 'rifle'. Crossing the border with an FN lower would probably be pretty exhilarating, but for all of the wrong reasons. If you're going to have a gun in the US, have the whole gun there - messing around with customs on each crossing (and running the risk of getting a customs guy who doesn't know the rules, but sill has the power to wreck your day) isn't anybodies idea of a good time.
 
Nearly all C1A1's were chopped by the Socialist F**ks. All remaining parts were bought by Gunparts.
DEWAT receivers are cut or otherwise made so they cannot be re-activated. Plus changing a barrel on any FAL model isn't like doing so on a bolt action hunting rifle.
Suspect exhilarating is putting it mildly too. You'd have to look into the laws in whatever State your buddy is in. Not all of 'em allow battle rifles that they erroneously call assault rifles. And you'd have to comply with U.S. Federal firearm import laws. Don't think, legally, there is such a thing as a DEWAT, Stateside. Don't know for sure though. In any case, you cannot legally own or possess any firearm as a non-immigrating alien unless you're there to hunt or shoot a match.
 
Been a Long time since I bought my Australian L1A1 from Milarm. They sent it to Arizona in Three packages and I reassembled it.

Reminded me of when I bought a Lee Metford from them Customs stopped it, saying I needed an import licence. BUT ITS AN ANTIQUE! 1891 stamped on the butt socket! (Oh we thought that was the model number:jerkit:)
They then released it.
 
the Canadian C1a1s went to the smelter .
use it in the USA buy it in the USA. forget about bringing anything across the border .
 
Unless you are a citizen or a permanent residence alien of the United States of America (U. S. A.) you can't "buy one in the states". That is why I advised you about "straw purchases". A person purchasing a firearm in the U. S. A. with the intent of giving it to another person, even if that person can legally own the firearm (see recent U. S. A. Supreme Court ruling) can be arrested, tried and convict of a felony.

Canadian gun laws are strange but some laws here in the U. S. A. are also really strange also. You should have joined us in 1776.
 
If I recall correctly, the Americans have some laws about Deactivated guns, as in not allowed. I could be wrong on that, but it seems to me, that the Yankee government would prefer someone to own a non functioning replica than a dewat. Reason being that Dewats can be reactivated and the Boys and Girl at Red Jacket (Sons of Guns) have shown. That said, Bringing a Dewat into the States...... ask, the local Yankee cops, states Government officals, ect. cover your back side, ect. One wrong move and end up breaking a Firearms Law and you could have Bubba for a cell mate and Bubba doesn't have Vasiline!

I know we have some really stupid laws here in Canuckistan, but they have some even dumber ones south of the boarder. At least here in Canada the laws are consistant across the country. Down there, if you take a road trip, you have to plan out your trip because what may be legal in your State, County, Town, City, ect. may not be legal in the next one and just driving through can land you in the Crowbar Hotel!
 
mcpherson284 said:
If I recall correctly, the Americans have some laws about Deactivated guns, as in not allowed. I could be wrong on that, but it seems to me, that the Yankee government would prefer someone to own a non functioning replica than a dewat. Reason being that Dewats can be reactivated and the Boys and Girl at Red Jacket (Sons of Guns) have shown. That said, Bringing a Dewat into the States...... ask, the local Yankee cops, states Government officals, ect. cover your back side, ect. One wrong move and end up breaking a Firearms Law and you could have Bubba for a cell mate and Bubba doesn't have Vasiline!

I know we have some really stupid laws here in Canuckistan, but they have some even dumber ones south of the boarder. At least here in Canada the laws are consistant across the country. Down there, if you take a road trip, you have to plan out your trip because what may be legal in your State, County, Town, City, ect. may not be legal in the next one and just driving through can land you in the Crowbar Hotel!
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Could be wrong ;), but I believe Dewats fall under the National Firearms act as well, but the transfer tax isn't nearly as onerous as a working weapon.

Grizz
 
mcpherson284 said:
If I recall correctly, the Americans have some laws about Deactivated guns, as in not allowed. I could be wrong on that, but it seems to me, that the Yankee government would prefer someone to own a non functioning replica than a dewat. Reason being that Dewats can be reactivated and the Boys and Girl at Red Jacket (Sons of Guns) have shown. That said, Bringing a Dewat into the States...... ask, the local Yankee cops, states Government officals, ect. cover your back side, ect. One wrong move and end up breaking a Firearms Law and you could have Bubba for a cell mate and Bubba doesn't have Vasiline!

I know we have some really stupid laws here in Canuckistan, but they have some even dumber ones south of the boarder. At least here in Canada the laws are consistant across the country. Down there, if you take a road trip, you have to plan out your trip because what may be legal in your State, County, Town, City, ect. may not be legal in the next one and just driving through can land you in the Crowbar Hotel!
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Could be wrong ;), but I believe Dewats fall under the National Firearms act as well, but the transfer tax and process isn't nearly as onerous as a working weapon.

Grizz
 
The Wizard said:
Unless you are a citizen or a permanent residence alien of the United States of America (U. S. A.) you can't "buy one in the states". That is why I advised you about "straw purchases". A person purchasing a firearm in the U. S. A. with the intent of giving it to another person, even if that person can legally own the firearm (see recent U. S. A. Supreme Court ruling) can be arrested, tried and convict of a felony.

Canadian gun laws are strange but some laws here in the U. S. A. are also really strange also. You should have joined us in 1776.
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Not entirely true. You don't need permanent residence, but you do need residence. I forget the exact laws, but as a student stateside, I was, at the time, legally allowed to buy firearms. However, it was exceedingly difficult, requiring a ton of paperwork, and a hunting license. However, I am just someone on the internet, and you would be WELL advised to do your due diligence and make damn sure what you are doing is legal before you attempt anything. Unless a federal penetentiary is your idea of a good time?

Taking firearms into the US, even with all your ducks in a row, can also be an unpleasant experience. Expect to spend hours preparing your form 6, months waiting for it to be returned to you, and then more hours at the border teaching uninformed guards about the legalities of what you are doing, and hoping they will listen. As I said before, if you've erred in any way, you will probably be in for a very unpleasant time, if the experience I've described isn't unpleasant enough. Also, there are laws pertaining to travelling between states with firearms that you will want to understand, and also be aware that you may very well be searched on the way out by US customs. This isn't intended to put you off, but rather to encourage you to be extremely aware of what you are doing should you decide to buy or take a firearm to the states. And remember, the penalty for failure could be severe, in addition to reflecting on the community as a whole.
 
see what the liberal has done to us ? trying to find ways of owning a C1A1 , i been thru this before.

I even considered moving down there temporarily .

as previously mentioned , gun laws can be very confusing in the US.

in the above post, you don't have to be permanent , i cant recall which state it was i think it was in the mid-west.

joining falfiles is the place to be , they build clones , something about 922r rule whereby they have to replace certain number of parts with US made parts , i don't understand the reasoning behind that .
 
You still would not be able to own a C1A1 in the US. Because they have the safety sear, the BATF considers them autos. You have to replace the upper receiver. And of course, you will have to meet the US content parts with, I believe 10 US made parts to make it acceptable. Your receiver will be one of them.
 
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