FN made Model 8 in .35 Remington
- Thread starter mcjp
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- Location
- Yellowknife, NWT
The Model 8 and the updated Model 81 were the predecessors to Remington's 740 line of autoloaders. The Model 8 was designed by John Moses Browning and C.C. Loomis. It was produced from 1908 to 1936. Total production was about 80,600 units. They are not rare rifles. The Model 8 was offered in .25, .30, .32 and .35 Remington. The smaller cartridges were all basically rimless counterparts to the .25-35, .30-30 and .32 Special Winchester cartridges. The .35 Rem was more unique, being more powerful than a .351 Win SL, less powerful than the .35 Winchester.
The rifle was updated in 1936 as the Model 81 and was produced until the introduction of the Model 740 in 1950, about another 55,000 units. The .25 Remington chambering was dropped, and the .300 Savage was added. They are a bit heavy, but serviceable rifles. There are a few still in use in deer camps today, I've heard, but I don't personally know anyone who uses one. I see them listed at Ellwood Epps from time to time, usually about $400.00 IIRC. Incidentally, all this historical info is direct from the Remington webpage. Just go to "Sportsmen's Library">"History">"Firearm Models" and you'll find history on most of Remington's long guns.
The rifle was updated in 1936 as the Model 81 and was produced until the introduction of the Model 740 in 1950, about another 55,000 units. The .25 Remington chambering was dropped, and the .300 Savage was added. They are a bit heavy, but serviceable rifles. There are a few still in use in deer camps today, I've heard, but I don't personally know anyone who uses one. I see them listed at Ellwood Epps from time to time, usually about $400.00 IIRC. Incidentally, all this historical info is direct from the Remington webpage. Just go to "Sportsmen's Library">"History">"Firearm Models" and you'll find history on most of Remington's long guns.
The barrel is large because it is a recoiling barrel action.
The whole barrel recoils upon being shot, then the barrel slams back first which ejects the case & as the bolt returns at a slower speed it picks up a new round.
Weird but effect, I tried to use one this year but they are very frustrating trying to unload them
The whole barrel recoils upon being shot, then the barrel slams back first which ejects the case & as the bolt returns at a slower speed it picks up a new round.
Weird but effect, I tried to use one this year but they are very frustrating trying to unload them
The barrel you see on the Remington Model 8/81 is not the barrel it is a sleve over the barrel.The barrel is inside this sleve.The barrel recoils inside this sleve.
My guess is that FN had an agreement to manufacture these rifles,possibly for the Europian market.Is the rifle marked Remington Model 8 ?It is my understanding that the rifles made for the North American market were all made by Remington in the U.S.A.
My guess is that FN had an agreement to manufacture these rifles,possibly for the Europian market.Is the rifle marked Remington Model 8 ?It is my understanding that the rifles made for the North American market were all made by Remington in the U.S.A.
I have a shooting friend in my town who used to have an FN made Model 8 he once told me. I remember he said only a few thousand or so were FN made before Remington in the US started making them. He considered it a better and rarer version of the the Model 8. He also commented that accuracy gets worse as some barrel bushing wears out. This is all I remember of that conversation. Just repeating his comments so don't know myself how much is fact.
- Location
- Kawartha Lakes area of Ont
The gun in question is the FN Model 1900 made by Browning in Belgium in calibre 9mm Browning (a virtual duplicate of the .35 Remington). See
http://vintagesemiautorifle.proboards105.com/index.cgi?board=european
for more info.
Cheers,
Bob
http://vintagesemiautorifle.proboards105.com/index.cgi?board=european
for more info.
Cheers,
Bob
I own one of these FN Mdl 1900 rifles.
As with several JMB guns, the design was sold to FN as well Remington.
There were around 4900 of these rifles made by FN for the European market - they were not sold by FN here (Remington had rights to NA) so very few are believed to be here in Canada and the US.
Unlike the Model 8, they were only made in 35 cal.
There are two different styles of barrel, one has a rib like an Auto 5, the earlier guns have a plain barrel like mine (4 digit serial as NAA describes)
Please PM me if your Dad is interested in selling his gun
As with several JMB guns, the design was sold to FN as well Remington.
There were around 4900 of these rifles made by FN for the European market - they were not sold by FN here (Remington had rights to NA) so very few are believed to be here in Canada and the US.
Unlike the Model 8, they were only made in 35 cal.
There are two different styles of barrel, one has a rib like an Auto 5, the earlier guns have a plain barrel like mine (4 digit serial as NAA describes)
Please PM me if your Dad is interested in selling his gun
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
While on the topic:
Remington "Police Special"
Used by Frank Hamer in
the ambush of Bonnie & Clyde
Frank Hamer had special ordered the magazine
from the Peace Officers Equipment Company
in St. Joseph's Missouri.
He had the standard 5 shot magazine, and replaced
it with a larger 20 round magazine. He had gotten
this weapon for one purpose only, to use in
the hunt for Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker.
Remington "Police Special"
Used by Frank Hamer in
the ambush of Bonnie & Clyde
Frank Hamer had special ordered the magazine
from the Peace Officers Equipment Company
in St. Joseph's Missouri.
He had the standard 5 shot magazine, and replaced
it with a larger 20 round magazine. He had gotten
this weapon for one purpose only, to use in
the hunt for Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker.
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