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Hi fellaws, For alls of you that have FN49 in 8mm, what kind of accuracy you get with surplus ammo or hunting stuff or even reloads? I just bought a FN Egyptian contract on the EE so its why i ask some input, also i read on various forum the the FN is prone to trigger breakage, leading to uncontroled auto fire, it is true or just rare case? Thx:)
 
First off, congrats on getting an FN-49. I love the look of the rifle and they're great fun at the range. Post some pictures of yours.

To the accuracy question I haven't done a full exploration of my FN49's potential yet, but ammunition selection is a bit critical for these rifles.

Not all milsurp 8mm is created equal. Romanian works well in my rifle, but some other milsurp ammo doesn't play well with the semi-auto recoil system and can cause problems with the cycling to the point of potentially damaging the rifle. Others will no doubt share their experiences.

Commercial ammo brings another potential risk into play. Slamfires/out of battery incidents can occur in these rifles. Milsurp ammo tends to have harder primers, so the softer primers in the commercial ammo may increase the risk of a slamfire. On reloading, CCI 34 (unavailable for some time now) and CCI 200 primers are recommended by those in the know.

I haven't heard about any trigger failings leading to auto fire. There are some breakage issues related to the firing pin, though. Depending on contract and vintage the rifles will have either a one piece or two-piece firing pin. My Egyptian originally came with a one-piece firing pin. The tip of the one-piece can sometimes break off and jam proud in the bolt, igniting the primer before the bolt is in battery. Conventional wisdom is to replace the one piece pin with a two piece. Some US sources used to carry them. Not sure about availability or willingness to ship to Canada any more.
 
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I haven't heard about any trigger failings leading to auto fire. There are some breakage issues related to the firing pin, though. Depending on contract and vintage the rifles will have either a one piece or two-piece firing pin. My Egyptian originally came with a one-piece firing pin. The tip of the one-piece can sometimes break off and jam proud in the bolt, igniting the primer before the bolt is in battery. Conventional wisdom is to replace the one piece pin with a two piece. Some US sources used to carry them. Not sure about availability or willingness to ship to Canada any more.
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Yup. Was standing next to a Venuzulaen (sp?) FN49 that had an out of battery ignition that split the rifle in two with other bits on the deck. Very spectacular and very discouraging for everyone around.
 
Ive had my Eyptian Fn49 for a few years now . If you bought the one i was looking at the other day on the EE , very nice! Ive never had a issue with mine . Ive used the old milsurp ammo as well as federal , and have not personally had a issue .
Shes still one of the ###iest battle rifles i have!
 
RangeRover said:
First off, congrats on getting an FN-49. I love the look of the rifle and they're great fun at the range. Post some pictures of yours.

To the accuracy question I haven't done a full exploration of my FN49's potential yet, but ammunition selection is a bit critical for these rifles.

Not all milsurp 8mm is created equal. Romanian works well in my rifle, but some other milsurp ammo doesn't play well with the semi-auto recoil system and can cause problems with the cycling to the point of potentially damaging the rifle. Others will no doubt share their experiences.

Commercial ammo brings another potential risk into play. Slamfires/out of battery incidents can occur in these rifles. Milsurp ammo tends to have harder primers, so the softer primers in the commercial ammo may increase the risk of a slamfire. On reloading, CCI 34 (unavailable for some time now) and CCI 200 primers are recommended by those in the know.

I haven't heard about any trigger failings leading to auto fire. There are some breakage issues related to the firing pin, though. Depending on contract and vintage the rifles will have either a one piece or two-piece firing pin. My Egyptian originally came with a one-piece firing pin. The tip of the one-piece can sometimes break off and jam proud in the bolt, igniting the primer before the bolt is in battery. Conventional wisdom is to replace the one piece pin with a two piece. Some US sources used to carry them. Not sure about availability or willingness to ship to Canada any more.
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I want to order the 2 piece firing pin from numrich(i know 25$ to add for canada order....) The rear section of the pin can be slotted or not, wich 1 i need? i will also buy a new spring and an adjusting tool for the gas system.
 
From my understanding, it is sort of the western counterpart to the SKS: Wood stocked 10 round semi-auto, loads with stripper clips, non-detachable internal mag, and even shares the same issues.

BTW I'm going to go with a Hakim for sure. It may be a trap for the less mechanically inclined, but I think I'll have no problem with figuring one out...
 
Either of the two rear firing pin elements, with or without the FPSS slot, will work in your Egyptian rifle as that contract didn't include an FPSS. Putting one with a slot into an Egyptian FN-49 doesn't create any isssues.

It's luck of the draw which one you get.

If you get one with the slot you'd probably find someone on the board with a rifle from a different contract and who lost the draw when Numrich pulled one out of the parts bin and wound up with one without the slot who'd be willing to trade you.
 
RangeRover said:
Either of the two rear firing pin elements, with or without the FPSS slot, will work in your Egyptian rifle as that contract didn't include an FPSS. Putting one with a slot into an Egyptian FN-49 doesn't create any isssues.

It's luck of the draw which one you get.

If you get one with the slot you'd probably find someone on the board with a rifle from a different contract and who lost the draw when Numrich pulled one out of the parts bin and wound up with one without the slot who'd be willing to trade you.
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Thx, i already find out. I ordered the 1 without slot but they have the slotted 1 too in stock(on their site doesnt say sold-out). So i will have new 2 pieces firing pin+spring+gas sleeve wrench. I will post somes pics soon as i get my rifle:)
 
If you guys are having problems with different makes of ammo, I would really suggest ADJUSTING THE GAS BLEED COLLAR to compensate.

There should be no slam-fires with this rifle. If there are, it ain't the primer: it's the action taking too much gas OR not bleeding enough gas and operating too fast and hard. This was PRECISELY the problem with the ill-fated 555, the Tok, it is the problem with most AG-42B rifles and it is the problem with the FAL.

In each and every case, the problem is at the gas port.

With the FAL and the SAFN both, you screw the gas-adjustment one direction to OPEN the gas bleed, the other way to close it; you can see the angled front of the collar as it allows more or less gas to escape. Proper adjustment for any ammo is with the brass just coming out of the rifle and dropping on the bench beside you. This will give them the best accuracy, too. Combat adjustment was to set it the same, then go 1 click more CLOSED in order to assure functioning with the rifle slightly fouled. With the FAL, the gas-bleed adjustment sleeve is immediately behind the Gas Block on the top of the Barrel; it is in the same place on the SAFN, but you first must remove the Top Front Handguard to get at it.

There are different solutions for the other rifles; I have written on these in the past.
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UCSPanther said:
From my understanding, it is sort of the western counterpart to the SKS: Wood stocked 10 round semi-auto, loads with stripper clips, non-detachable internal mag, and even shares the same issues.

BTW I'm going to go with a Hakim for sure. It may be a trap for the less mechanically inclined, but I think I'll have no problem with figuring one out...
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I also have a HAkim 8mm Egyptian issue , one of my best rifles from the era.....shoots like a dream, love the mechanics of it , just watch your fingers lol.
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smellie said:
If you guys are having problems with different makes of ammo, I would really suggest ADJUSTING THE GAS BLEED COLLAR to compensate.

There should be no slam-fires with this rifle. If there are, it ain't the primer: it's the action taking too much gas OR not bleeding enough gas and operating too fast and hard. This was PRECISELY the problem with the ill-fated 555, the Tok, it is the problem with most AG-42B rifles and it is the problem with the FAL.

In each and every case, the problem is at the gas port.

With the FAL and the SAFN both, you screw the gas-adjustment one direction to OPEN the gas bleed, the other way to close it; you can see the angled front of the collar as it allows more or less gas to escape. Proper adjustment for any ammo is with the brass just coming out of the rifle and dropping on the bench beside you. This will give them the best accuracy, too. Combat adjustment was to set it the same, then go 1 click more CLOSED in order to assure functioning with the rifle slightly fouled. With the FAL, the gas-bleed adjustment sleeve is immediately behind the Gas Block on the top of the Barrel; it is in the same place on the SAFN, but you first must remove the Top Front Handguard to get at it.

There are different solutions for the other rifles; I have written on these in the past.
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Ive heard a lot of bad things about the Global Mohawk .555 i have one myself and have used old surplus .303 and new federal .303 and never had a issue with ammo. Did have a bit of a job reassembling after a cleaning however i believe it was more of a wood swelling issue than anything else. My .555 came with a beauty scope mount the can roll to the left to allow sights to be used.
I have pictures of the rifle on a thread here somewhere.
 
Really happy to hear that there is still a Mohawk 555 out there and doing its stuff. Yours must have the gas set correctly: many did not. I have seen too many wrecks, every single one caused by too much gas at the piston.

They are a pretty rifle, really. If a half-decent one comes up on the EE some time in the next year or so, I just might treat myself.

Have fun with yours: they are now anything except common.
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smellie said:
Really happy to hear that there is still a Mohawk 555 out there and doing its stuff. Yours must have the gas set correctly: many did not. I have seen too many wrecks, every single one caused by too much gas at the piston.

They are a pretty rifle, really. If a half-decent one comes up on the EE some time in the next year or so, I just might treat myself.

Have fun with yours: they are now anything except common.
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http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39345&highlight=.555

Here are some pictures, i also have a picture of my fn49 and hakim in one of my photo folders on this link as well
 
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