For .303 Brit reloaders, Privi Partizan unprimed brass on sale

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Just stumbled over this sale. I THINK I have a supply of Greek HXP and Privi Partizan brass that will last a senior citizen until he takes the long dirt nap. But for those who don't have a lifetime supply of .303 Brit brass, apparently PPU brass is relatively hard to find in the usual sporting goods stores that supply reloading components. And it's also more expensive when compared to Winchester, etc.

But most agree (if not all) that PPU's brass is about the best out there as far as having case dimensions close to that of ball ammunition, particularly at the rim and head, which translates into longer case life.

I don't know what's considered a good price, but a reduction from $57/per 50 to $46/per 50 sounds like a pretty good price cut to me. It's unlikely to get cheaper as time goes on...

Full disclosure: I can't remember the last time I either shopped or bought bulk unprimed brass for .303 British. So I don't know what those who are shopping and buying would consider a good price.

https://www.westernmetal.ca/shooting/303-british-new-prvi-brass-bags-50-prvi303b-50
 
From over ten years ago - when it was only $37 US a bag of 50...

Prvi Partizan cases are .010 thicker and heavier in the base web area than ANY other brand of .303 case.

Fired Prvi and HXP cases below. Prvi Partizan on the left, Greek HXP on the right both once fired cases in the same Enfield. Prvi Partizan brass is made like the more robustly made American military cases are.

The Prvi cases will change your outlook on headspace compared to flimsy American made cases.​

https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/04/privihxp-1.jpg
 
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Rick said:
From over ten years ago - when it was only $37 US a bag of 50...

Prvi Partizan cases are .010 thicker and heavier in the base web area than ANY other brand of .303 case.

Fired Prvi and HXP cases below. Prvi Partizan on the left, Greek HXP on the right both once fired cases in the same Enfield. Prvi Partizan brass is made like the more robustly made American military cases are.

The Prvi cases will change your outlook on headspace compared to flimsy American made cases.​

https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/04/privihxp-1.jpg
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Rick, do you mind if I use my own photo that I took with my camera of my fired cases. You didn't measure the Prvi Partizan rim thickness, the base diameter or the case wall thickness.

So why don't you try getting your own information and photos. I do not want anyone thinking I was copying your work when I post "MY" photos here. You even copied word for word what I said in another posting.

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Below another of my photos measuring rim thickness of a Winchester and Prvi Partizan case in my original posting.

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So again Rick I would like to use my photos and information here and not let people think you did all the work measuring cases.
 
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It's usually in stock at a few retailers and for less than their sale price. Western also had 1f 7.62X39 brass for more than the price of brand new PRVI 7.62X39 brass.
 
bigedp51 said:
Rick, do you mind if I use my own photo that I took with my camera of my fired cases. You didn't measure the Prvi Partizan rim thickness, the base diameter or the case wall thickness.
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Your picture? That picture is from a post over a decade ago, from a username Ed Norton on the Milsurps forum... A guy now banned BTW because he was such a quarrelsome, easily offended #### that it was easier to ban him than put up with his endless shyte disturbing. Here ya' go, Sunshine; same picture and the post it was included in:

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=14890
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So why don't you try getting your own information and photos. I do not want anyone thinking I was copying your work when I post "MY" photos here. You even copied word for word what I said in another posting.
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  1. Is that your subtle way of telling us that you're the Ed Norton banned nearly a decade ago?
  2. And that, almost ten years later, we're supposed to link a post made by the infamous Ed Norton ten years ago with you, here, now?
But while we're dealing with your angst that I apparently didn't give sufficient attribution to Ed Norton for a post that's over a decade old on another forum, there is this troubling post of yours the same day as my post that is causing you so much angst:

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2092458-Your-opinion-on-pressure?p=17598443&viewfull=1#post17598443
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Beautiful little explanatory graphic you put up there, bigedp51! Well done! That must have taken you quite a bit of work to create!

However, it looks practically IDENTICAL to another post, also well over a decade old, also over on the Milsurps forum.

But NOT posted by the notorious and now banned Ed Norton NOR bigedp51. No, it looks like a carbon copy of a lengthy article on Lee Enfield headspace written by username parashooter. Are you parashooter as well over there, bigedp51?

https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=296-Headspace-101-for-.303-s


Hmmmmmm... except for your text above the graphic, looks like a plain ol' cut 'n paste job of parashooter's post. BTW, I'm username Rick here, Milsurps... pretty much all the forums I visit.

So again Rick I would like to use my photos and information here and not let people think you did all the work measuring cases.
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Well bigedp51, I'm a little confused. Are you not only Ed Norton over on the Milsurps forum (and we're supposed to know that a decade after you were banned) - but you also go by the username parashooter over there as well, and you're still a member?

So all those graphics over on Milsurps are actually your work you posted over a decade ago - under two different usernames?

Or are you just one of those usernames over there - different than bigedp51 here - but you'd like to let people think you also did the work of creating either the picture or the dynamic giff under the other username that wasn't you over there?

Can't have rules for other people that don't apply to you bigedp51... it makes you look like a Democrat.

If I hurt your feelings and you are in fact the banned and unlamented Ed Norton over on Milsurps, you have my apology, and I'll keep that in mind from this point on.

But if you aren't also the user Parashooter on Milsurps, after you've been using his graphics even casually to explain something without giving attribution to him... then you have some 'splaining and apologizing of your own to do.
 
I'm bigedp51 AKA Ed Horton and the photo you posted belongs to me and I posted it here many times. And don't try and cover your tracks about me being banned, when the fight was over the books and manuals that I had in my Enfield sticky. So I will say this again Steve Redgwell at http://www.303british.com/was going all over the internet in Enfield forums telling everyone they were breaking copyright laws if they posted the Canadian No.4 manual. And this cost me my Enfield book and manual sticky in two Enfield forums that I worked years collecting this information and was giving it away for "FREE". And now all this information is at Milsurps and the owner is not breaking any copyright laws. (Isn't that odd)

So you posted I was banned from Milsurps "BUT" you quoted my post and used my photo. You do not even know what was going on at that time or the fights over posting the Canadian No.4 Enfield manual and other material. And if you check out the "The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum" at milsurps you will see I donated the Canadian No.4 manuals and many other books and manuals. So isn't' it strange that an American had to give a Canadian Enfield forum a Canadian No.4 Enfield manual. Or did you all forget what Steve Redgwell was doing and trying to sell his version of the Canadian manual?

So yes I was at war with Steve Redgwell and the owner of Milsurps, and I ended up banned at Gunboards where my sticky was and Milsurps ending up with everything I had in my manual sticky. One of the moderators at milsurps had his own webpage, and the problem was all his links were from my sticky. So yes I have anger issues over the photos and material I posted at other websites. There are many people posting my photos in Enfield forums, they are not copyrighted or watermarked. And I get the impression you were trying to stir up trouble with your "COPIED" information about the Prvi Partizan case in two postings. So why would you use my photos and information in the very forum where I have been posting them for years?????? Or didn't you know bigedp51 and Ed Horton were one in the same person and had a Enfield sticky full of free Enfield books and manuals.

So be nice Rick and let me post my own material and stop being a jerk. You copied my posting at milsurps verbatim and just a few days ago I posted "MY" photo and the same material here and have been doing so for a very long time.

And yes I copied Parashooters animated gif image of the .303 cartridge being fired. And this was because he was telling everyone to lube their cases to fire form them. And and I was telling them to use the o-ring method because lubing your cases increases can increase bolt thrust and can increase the Enfield rifles headspace.

Below from a 1946 Enfield book that was in my Enfield manual sticky at Gunboards that "WAS" stuffed full of Enfield information given away free.

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This forced Parashooter to change from greasing cases to wrapping weed wacker cord around the case rim. And this was because I was telling everyone to use the o-ring method and "NOT" lube their cases. So how many of you use weed wacker cord to fire form your cases or lube your cases to fire form them and double your bolt thrust.

Below Parashooters animated gif image for his "Headspace 101".

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And the two images below I modified from Parashooters Image to show how to use the o-ring method and letting the case headspace on its shoulder.

And remember Parashooter did not make these images below, and I modified them because we were at war over lubing cases or using o-rings.

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So Rick I do not feel bad about using Parashooters image because I was using it to explain bolt thrust and how it can increase the Enfield rifles headspace.

And again Rick I would like to post my own written information and photos here in this forum without anyone pretending to be me bigedp51 AKA Ed Horton and using my material.



1991 No.4 (All Marks) .303 Rifle Manuals (Complete Set)
The Canadian No.4 manual donated by Ed Horton AKA bigedp51 along with many more manuals and many of them from the MOD Pattern Room Library. The Canadian No.4 manual was posted at Milsurps on 05-15-2008 and came from my sticky at Gunboards.

http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=335-1991-No.4-%28All-Marks%29-.303-Rifle-Manuals-%28Complete-Set%29

Note: Original PDF file of complete book provided courtesy of MILSURPS.COM member Ed Horton (click here). Ed respectfully requests that other members contribute anything they might have in return.
 
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Some people are all about getting credit to prop up their fragile self-esteem and others are just happy to contribute to the knowledge base.
 
All I have ever done was try to help people and supply information in this forum. And when I started my Enfield book and manual stickys years ago I had no idea I would have people trying to shut down my sticky and giving free manuals to Enfield owners. I lost my stickys and all the books and manuals ended up at milsurps. The fight over the manuals is over, and greed won and many of you know that Steve Redgwell did not want the Canadian Enfield manual on any website. And what's funny is the 1991 and 2002 Canadian Enfield manuals are now at Badgers Milsurp forum and never were a copyright issue.

I have no idea why Rick posted my information from milsurps here, other than to start trouble. But I can also tell you many people here have thanked me for my postings and help.

I can't get inside Ricks head and understand why he did what he did here other than try to slander me. And I'm not ashamed of giving free Enfield manuals from the UK, Canada, and Australia to Enfield owners.

All I want to do is use my information and photos here to help others. And it looks like Rick didn't know bigedp51 and Ed Horton are one in the same person and the images belong to me. So next time Rick all you have to do is send me a PM and ask.

The Enfield rifle was proof tested with two proof cartridges and if the headspace increased .003 or more the rifle failed proof testing. And Parashooter was telling everyone to lube their cases to fire form them. So I had no problem using his image and proving him wrong.

And a picture is worth a thousand words Rick so just make sure you use your own photos and not step on my postings here.

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MDR said:
Good info on the enfield brass. Glad I bought some PRVI.
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Just remember even with Prvi Partizan brass with its thicker rims you will have .012 head clearance with a Enfield rifle at max military headspace. Meaning it could have .012 "air space" between the rear of the case and the bolt face. And with a resized case in a bolt action you only need .001 to .002 head clearance (shoulder bump) to keep the cases from stretching.

Below I have two bolt heads fitted to my 1950 Enfield No.4 Mk2 for different brands of brass. This rifle is South African marked and was center bedded for competition.

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Below Australian headspace gauges and rim gauge from the late 1940s.

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