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Look at this, they've been under a stairway wrapped in a blanket for years, abd it shows... :eek:

Any help with the Ross? Missing sight, looks like woods chopped. And model 92 screws badly scarred, all will be pitted :(
The full length of the .44-40 (lever) bore has very weak rifling, is that normal or worn/dirty?

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Really neat German .22 breech loader, Mattel cap gun and beeman pellet gun in the mix too, for some reason I keep wondering what the story is with them... and btw, those are my real feet, not a body double ;)

edit: I don't know which forum to put this in, pls move it if required, maybe I should have put it in the sporting forum?
edit2: I meant the guns were crying, not me, btw :D

cheers,
Mike
 
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22 is a deutch werkes boys model 1
I had one, neat little gun, sold it in the ee for 150.00 in pristine condition.
 
My wife's 1892 44-40 also has what looks like weak rifling however I was told that was the way they were made, not the usual rifling you would find in the later years. I dunno, but I sure feel like crying for those rifles, that rust is sad. :( The wood on that 92 looks suprisingly nice though.
 
The Ross is a Mk. II***. If the bore is good, install a sporting rear sight on the barrel where the issue sight was, and shoot it.
Any readable marks on the butt?
 
Those little Deutsche-Werke .22s used to be given to kids for selling something like 10 newspaper subscriptions, back in the 1920s. They sold for about $1.50 new.
There used to be lots of them around, but SO many got tossed out that they are now of some interest. And some of them are VERY accurate.

Suggest using them with LOW velocity ammunition: standards or even subsonic. Many of these spit gas when the "extractor" plate gets beat up or slop works into the action. Keeping pressures down will help here. And they are a lot of fun.

All of my old (1873, 1886, 1892) Winchesters have fairly shallow rifling. Remember, they were made to work with lead slugs at low velocities and so did not need deep grooves.

The Ross has been cut. Verily, I weep! But that doesn't mean it won't shoot, so clean her up and have a go!

Santa must be being especially nice this year; hope he drops by my place if this is what he's handing out! ;-)
 
OK, here's the story:

The guns are not definately mine yet but it's looking good. Very nice older lady had them stuffed under a stairway in an old house, all wrapped in blankets, don't know if they were used or removed from there lately, but they have been there for a few years anyway. They were her fathers, and he died when she was young. She was asking my wife what she got for me for Christmas, she told her it was an old war gun (it's a Mosin). The lady said "he likes guns? I have a few for him to look at, I don't know if they're any good or not though. Ones an old winchester, don't know about the others". So I have them to look at, likely to be given for free the way she's talking, I just said I wanted to look at them and see what could be done with them.
I never interested in winchesters but this one is growing on me, I feel a full blown restoration coming on it. I don't know the value of it but i've seen huge prices for better condition ones online today. But it will be a keeper, the lady says her father would be proud to see them go to someone who appreciates them, so i'm feeling am obligation (not in a bad way).

I bought the garand here on the EE this fall, haven't even shot it yet, joining a gun club in Jamuary. It has a boyds stock, is an SA 1943.

Al I can say is :dancingbanana: this is not typical luck for me.:dancingbanana:

I'll post more pics of the 92, I'd like to restore it. More to come, including pics, but wife is putting me to work again and in light of a few purchases I made recently, I'm doing as I'm told for a while...

Thanks for all the info guys, this really is a great site. :cool:

cheers,
Mike
 
I think the pictures are making things look better than they really are, so here's a few more, including some wood stamps in the ross. The ross also has a US stamp underside of the grip by the trigger guard.
Anyone with any information to add on these, I'd love to see it... :cool:

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The '92 is definitely restorable. I've worked on worse. Nice clear marks on the Ross butt. I think PLF is Princess Louise' Fusliers. Interestingly, my US surcharged II*** is also PLF. Because the stock is cut in front of the band, the stock is restorable, with a hidden splice under the band. A new barrel would be needed, of course, but changing barrels on a Mk. II Ross is straightforeward.
 
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