Found this in the attic... any value to it?
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Blastattack
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- Winnipeg MB
No it isn't. It's a sporterized Lee Enfield No. 4 MKI* manufactured by Savage Stevens "for" the US Army, who immediately surplussed it and sold them to the Brits. The steel wool and oil is good advice though. The rifle appears restoreable (no dolt cut it down), but not worth much more than $100 in it's current condition.
blasted_saber
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- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
$100. Theres literally tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) just like it floating around Canada. Unfortunately it has been sportered. This is what it should look like in its original configuration.
For you, I'd clean her up and see if it shoots accurately
For you, I'd clean her up and see if it shoots accurately
If you want to see what she originally looked like to compare your Savage Enfield against an "all correct" 43 Savage as originally issued one, go to the United Kingdon - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=120-united-kingdom and view the 82 picture photo gallery montage for the 1943 Savage No.4 Mk1* Enfield Rifle (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?p=1312.
With thanks to Advisory Panel member Lance, there's also a rare "all correct" 1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope) (click here) .....http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=3537
Lance's article, accompanied by a detailed 165 pic photo montage, speaks to this example as being one of approximately 3,400 Savage rifles converted by Holland and Holland and re-barreled with an Enfield 5 groove barrel, however, it was never fitted with a matching No.32 scope.
Hope this helps...
Regards,
Doug
With thanks to Advisory Panel member Lance, there's also a rare "all correct" 1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope) (click here) .....http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=3537
Lance's article, accompanied by a detailed 165 pic photo montage, speaks to this example as being one of approximately 3,400 Savage rifles converted by Holland and Holland and re-barreled with an Enfield 5 groove barrel, however, it was never fitted with a matching No.32 scope.
Hope this helps...
Regards,
Doug
No Lee-Enfield was ever made "for" or surplused by the U.S. Army. They were made by the Savage Arms Co., under contract, specifically for the Brits. Savage was making 'em for the Brits before there was such a thing as the U.S. Lend/Lease Act too.
However, it's absolutely not a Mk 2(no such thing until 1949). The 0000 steel wool and light oil or a light touch with a fine brass wire wheel in a bench grinder will remove the light rust(doesn't look pitted to me) without bothering the finish. And you need to check the headspace and look at the bore's condition. If the bore is heavily rusted, it's very likely not worth doing much with it.
However, it's absolutely not a Mk 2(no such thing until 1949). The 0000 steel wool and light oil or a light touch with a fine brass wire wheel in a bench grinder will remove the light rust(doesn't look pitted to me) without bothering the finish. And you need to check the headspace and look at the bore's condition. If the bore is heavily rusted, it's very likely not worth doing much with it.
That reminds me of my first LE purchase! $24.99 at the local Canadian Tire. Was stuffed in a cardboard barrel with a dozen or so more and had to have my mother give her permission to the store before they would sell it to me. (long before FAC, PAL)
- Location
- WMU247 near Edmonton
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why is it you can never get the right answer.
the first batch of Savage No4 rifles were to fufill a British Contract. The British were not able to continue paying for these contracts so the next batch were paid for by the US government for the US Army and were declared surplus and sold to the British at a heavy discount. Then the Lend Lease plan kicked in, you can google that.
well perhaps you have half the right answer....
Back to the OP
Value: Plus points, the metal has not been cut so that rifle could be restored, you have a mag, which is worth $45. If the bolt and receiver have matching serial numbers thats another bonus. 6 years ago that would have been a $25-$40 rifle. Todays market, if the bore is good, in its current condition your looking in the $125-150. Cleaned up you may get closer to $200. But not from me... I'm a cheap bastard.
why is it you can never get the right answer.
the first batch of Savage No4 rifles were to fufill a British Contract. The British were not able to continue paying for these contracts so the next batch were paid for by the US government for the US Army and were declared surplus and sold to the British at a heavy discount. Then the Lend Lease plan kicked in, you can google that.
well perhaps you have half the right answer....
Back to the OP
Value: Plus points, the metal has not been cut so that rifle could be restored, you have a mag, which is worth $45. If the bolt and receiver have matching serial numbers thats another bonus. 6 years ago that would have been a $25-$40 rifle. Todays market, if the bore is good, in its current condition your looking in the $125-150. Cleaned up you may get closer to $200. But not from me... I'm a cheap bastard.
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- WMU247 near Edmonton
in the EE that would be "minor patina" photos are not the best I would like to see more of the barrel knox and what the barrel and receiver look like under the wood line.
maple_leaf_eh
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
There are about 40% reusable parts - receiver, bolt, back sight, barrel, trigger guard, mag, buttscrew and washer, front sight ears, takedown screw, collar and trigger guard screw. The other 60% are going to be expensive because there aren't many places that will have everything in stock. You need - foreend, front band and screw, middle band, screw and sling loop, handguard ring, butt, buttplate and washer, 2x buttplate screws (maybe), rear swivel and 2x screws. (I was doing to same arithmatic last week.) Fortunately Savage and Long Branch parts are common in Canada and North America, so you aren't going to run into problems, like if it was a Mk1/3 or Mk1/2 conversion or Mk2 original.
Then you need a couple of flat tip screw drivers, including one 15" long for the butt, a few drift pins and a small hammer. Pieces alone aren't enough. The condition of the surfaces means oils, rust 'attackers' and refinishing cold blue.
Then you need a couple of flat tip screw drivers, including one 15" long for the butt, a few drift pins and a small hammer. Pieces alone aren't enough. The condition of the surfaces means oils, rust 'attackers' and refinishing cold blue.
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
My old man had one just like that. (minus the rust) Carried it for years deer hunting. Developed a habit of opening by itself and he got rid of it. Wish I still had the old girl, sporter or not. It shot very well.
Value? Probably between 1 & 200 depending on the bore.
Value? Probably between 1 & 200 depending on the bore.
