frog lube

lanzshootingsupplies.com has some. i ordered some mpro7 the other week and my card has not been charged so i called today to ask what was happening. they were out of mpro7 and were waiting for the shipment. he suggested frog lube. how do these compare? i wanted mpor7 because its more of a carbon cleaner, i dont want to strip out copper.
 
I use Frog Lube as my main, day-to-day lube now. It works well, and doesn't smell nasty (in fact, it smells pretty awesome, which is good for brownie points with the girlfriend). I use both the liquid and paste forms, depending on what I'm lubing, and they both work well. I bought mine from Technology Direct.
 
Why not, if it'll do both?

if i understand things correctly copper wont damage your barrel, but it does create a bearing surface within the barrel that will keep your rifle shooting consistently and accurate. once you strip it you'll have to "dirty" it to get it shooting on again. carbon however really isnt something you want in your barrel. this is just what i was taught.

please feel free to correct me if there is something i'm missing
 
if i understand things correctly copper wont damage your barrel, but it does create a bearing surface within the barrel that will keep your rifle shooting consistently and accurate. once you strip it you'll have to "dirty" it to get it shooting on again. carbon however really isnt something you want in your barrel. this is just what i was taught.

please feel free to correct me if there is something i'm missing

Carbon at the throat is bad as it can create a "pressure ring" causing pressures to increase and accuracy to fall off.

Copper fouling will also cause accuracy issues. Depending on the barrel it can be in as little as 20 rounds or as many as 300+ rounds.
 
I use Mpro 7 cleaner. Will it be a bad idea to use frog lube as just a lubricant?
Would it be bad if they were to cross paths?
 
I Frog Lubed my AR, my PX4 Storm and my HK45.

I had no issues before Frog Lubing, so I didn't really notice any bit of difference in any of my firearms, except for the PX4. I had heard that it really smooths out the cycling of the action, and on the PX4 it really did, which ironically is the only gun I did that I didn't do the whole heat up with a hair dryer thing.

Where it shines for me is as a cleaner I don't need to worry about getting on my skin. I sit on my bed and clean my firearms while watching TV/Movies, so having it smell good and be non toxic was great. I suppose if I had really bad lead/copper fouling I'd probably switch to a heavy duty solvent for that cleaning, then go back to the Frog Lube until I needed the solvent again.

Before switching over I had done a lot of reading on forums where strangely enough it's really controversial... lots of internet arguments over a CLP. I don't see it as anything more than a non toxic CLP alternative that smells good, not some wonder product that will shrink my groups and enlarge my #####.
 
I've been using it for a couple months now on all my pistols (liquid and paste). It is a little on the expensive side and seems to work as well as anything else.

But the extra $$$ is worth the minty freshness.

You should see the look when I asked a guy at the range "Do you wanna smell my gun?"
 
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