From the U.S. to Canada

[shortround]

I have a buddy who is interested in coming up for a visit but is interested in being able to bring up his Beowolf or Grendal (to show off really) . is this possible or are we just fooling ourselves at the moment?

To add to the confusion ,hypothetically of course, would it be possible to sell it while here or is that a definite NO-NO ? Just asking of course.

THanks

Shorty

 

[F22_RaptoR]

An AR15 type rifle?

First off he'd need US Department of State export permits to let the gun through the border. Then the gun would need to be registered in Canada and be transferred to someone with a valid R-PAL

Even with a non restricted bolt gun he'd need US state department export permits, I'm not sure how non-citizens could possess a firearm without a PAL, however you could always have the gun shipped to you and then you "hold onto it" for him with your PAL.


In any case, it's going to cost a bunch of money (I think Prophet River costs like 150 or 200 bucks for an export permit and all the paperwork) for just something to show off.

Of course if all the paperwork is filled out and you buddy decides to sell it, then by all means. For a restricted it would already be registered to you I am assuming, and it would simply be a matter of giving him the money for it. If the US State Department allows its export then it should be fine to sell it. Of course take this all with a grain of salt, I'm no lawyer.

 

[roberto mervici]

I read that U.S. citizen or resident as far Canadian law is concerned, are permited to bring personal non restricted firearms into Canada and the canadian non resident hunting license will act as temporary PAL, however they must bring the rifles/shotgun back to U.S. when returning home.

 

[toxic]

I read that U.S. citizen or resident as far Canadian law is concerned, are permited to bring personal non restricted firearms into Canada and the canadian non resident hunting license will act as temporary PAL, however they must bring the rifles/shotgun back to U.S. when returning home.

Not exactly. There is a $25 non-resident firearms declaration they fill out from Canada Customs that is the equivalent to a PAL for 60 days. If the firearms is restricted he will need an ATT too.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/form-formulaire/pdfs/909.pdf

As far as selling it up here...he may be contavening U.S. export laws without an export pemit. I wonder how U.S. export laws would apply if when he exported it he had no intention of selling it and then changed his mind once he was here.

 

[GolfSix]

If he tries to sell it here and the cdn buyer then tries to register it with out the customs paper work showing it was imported and duties and tax paid someone's in a lot of trouble.

 

[shortround]

Thanks guys ,

So the general concensis is that it will be a pain in the butt. I guess that is what comes from a quiet friday night, a new webcam ,and a couple too many beers will make sound like fun .

Damn I thought it was sounding too easy !!!!!!!

Thanks
Shorty

 

[toxic]

If he tries to sell it here and the cdn buyer then tries to register it with out the customs paper work showing it was imported and duties and tax paid someone's in a lot of trouble.

The Canadian purchaser should be okay registering it and then paying the tax on it to CBSA. This is something that happenned all the time with American hunters coming to hunt with outfiters before 9/11. I've heard of guides who ended up with a rifle as their tip at the end of hunts. Today Homeland Security in the U.S. would be unhappy on the U.S. side.