Front Rest Adapters for Rimfire Rifles

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This is not meant to be prescriptive, that is a recommendation of what to do. Shooters should always do what they feel is best and safe. This is simply a brief outline of some things I've tried or seen and what I would like to try.

Some rimfire shooters may never use a rest, others may prefer to use a bipod. This is about adapters for rimfire shooters using a front rest. More specifically it is about adapters that work with three inch wide front bags. It is easy to understand that many shooters may eschew the wide front bag in favour of one that fits their rifle's forestock (or forearm or fore-end). There's nothing wrong with that.

Many front bags are available in standard sizes, measured in half-inch increments of width, or in the more general sizes of narrow, medium, and wide. When using a variety of rimfire rifles that are in different designs, shapes, weights it can be challenging to find a front bag that fits the rifle's forestock well. They are often too narrow or too wide. The latter can be managed to some extent by using something to make the rifle fit the front bag a little better. For example, a piece of leather folded judiciously can help overcome mismatch between a front bag that is a little wider than the forearm of the rifle.

A solution to the problem of forestock to front bag fit is to have a variety of front bags and change them as needed. There's nothing wrong with that, except perhaps it may take a little time (but one shouldn't be in a hurry when shooting anyway).

Another solution may be to use a single front bag, the three inch wide front bag. The three inch front bag is often used by Bench Rest (BR) shooters who have rifles with a three inch wide forearm. The wide forearm and bag combination offer great stability and keep the rifle from canting. Here's a front rest that I've been using often. I have a new front bag for it (shown below) but haven't yet got around to changing them.




This is what it looks like with a rifle



Obviously it's a good match as this kind of rifle needs a front rest with an accommodating front bag. But not all rifles that are good for target shooting come with a three inch wide forearm. Some good shooters are not made with a BR stock. Take for example the ubiquitous UIT-style rifles, such as the Anschutz 1407. These rifles are very good shooters but their stocks don't fit a three inch front bag. There are other bags that fit well, of course, but do you may have to find one.

One solution is to modify a UIT-style stock so it has a three inch wide forestock. It is a bit of work and it is necessary to have access to the needed tools. I first bought such a stock off the EE and later, with my father's help (he's a retired wood worker), made this stock from an early seventies 1407 UIT-style stock. It's a bit of work and not for anyone in a hurry.





Another solution that I've used is to make a three inch wide adapter that can fasten on the bottom of such a rifle. These rifles usually have a rail on the bottom, on to which an adapter can be fastened. I've made a number of BR adapters out of oak, a hard wood that will not easily break and is readily available. The fasteners can be the most challenging part of this. I've used modified T-nuts and machine screws for this but there are other solutions. The easiest way is to attach a 1/4" thick and three inch wide piece by screws that go through the screw holes on the aluminum rail on the bottom of the forestock. No new holes are needed.

Here's a UIT-style stock with a 1/2" thick oak adapter, followed by a 1/4" oak adapter that is simply screwed on.




They can be made out of aluminum or other metal if it is more straightforward. Here's a Walther KKM I had that came to me with an aluminum BR adapter that fastened to the rail with machine screws.




Ideally the thinnest adapter is preferable. The closer the bore is to the rest, the better. The most important thing is probably that the bottom of the adapter and the barrel should be parallel. Here is one that went with a stock that had a deep forearm with a bit of slope to it's end.



There are other solutions as well. These are two of them that I recently received but have yet to try out. (My range has been closed for berm repairs since June 18 so I have a bit of time on my hands when it comes to shooting.) One is a three inch wide BR plate that attaches directly to the Anschutz-type rail, the other is a three inch wide BR adapter that can be used with a variety of forestock styles and widths -- without the need for a rail. Between them in the photo below is a three inch wide front bag.



The BR plate on the left is three inches wide and can fit anywhere on the Anschutz style rail. It's five inches long.



I find the BR adapter (the one on the right in the photo above the last) to be promising. I have a variety of rifles with different stocks and varying forearm shapes and widths. This one is adjustable. At it's widest it will accommodate a forearm that is 2 1/2" wide; at it's narrowest 1 5/8".




Here is the bottom of a forestock that is 2 1/2" wide. It's flat but needs to be wider to fit a three inch wide front bag. (The rifle is a Carl Gustav CG 22T.)




This adapter can work with a forestock that has a round bottom such as this rifle has.





It also fits this narrower, sporter style stock forearm.




I haven't yet tried these last two items at the range but hope to do so very, very soon (I'm getting impatient as my club range was only to have been closed for a couple of weeks). But I think that the ability to use one front bag with a variety of rifles with different stock designs is with merit. The three inch wide adapters and front bag help make the rifle stable and they help reduce the effects of cant, the potential inconsistency of which can lead to results that are not the desirable.
 
Thank you for that tutorial - it is very informative.

Do you have concerns that the slippery silver material on the front bag and the slippery UHMW of the adaptor will be 'too slippery'? Or is the 'sticking' of the stock in the front bag another of my issues when the trigger gets squeezed?

Thanks.
 
Great post and pics...you have done a great job. Thanks for the effort. I have used similar adjustable rests, bags and bipods for years and find that different guns and stocks require different supports. Phil.
 
Do you have concerns that the slippery silver material on the front bag and the slippery UHMW of the adaptor will be 'too slippery'? Or is the 'sticking' of the stock in the front bag another of my issues when the trigger gets squeezed?

Thanks.

Depends on the approach you take. If you go free recoil, slippery is a good thing, let the rifle slide straight back uninhibited. If you prefer to hold the rifle, some "stickiness" is helpful as it is hard to hold steady if your rifle easily slides around.

I personally don't find such adapters necessary. I don't have any BR stocks, so two bags, a basic Caldwell medium and narrow, fit all my various rifles. You just "massage" the bag and tighten/loosen the rest side plates in order to appropriately support the particular rifle you are shooting. I also find the aesthetics of a front adapter very unappealing. A specific BR stock with a wide forearm can look attractive, though.

Ultimately, it's about the results you get, not how you get there, so if adapters are the approach someone wants to take, I'm not going to look down on it. I'm just going to say I'm skeptical that going to such lengths to outfit various rifles with such adapters is of much benefit for the effort spent. A wide piece of wood under the barrel doesn't change the intrinsic accuracy of a particular firearm. I'd be more inclined to fit a tuner, which is something that actually significantly alters how a rifle performs.
 
Thank you for this!! Very informative. I'm just getting into the shooting sport, and am soaking up as much as I can.

Question, I was contemplating making my own rest bags. Well, in all honesty, my wife is addicted to quilting and has agreed to sew some up for me. :) What is a good internal media for them? I was leaning towards soybeans, sort of like making a beanbag. Is this suitable, or is there something better?
 
Very informative and helpful thread, Glenn. Thanks for posting it.

Here's another version of the same thing that I've used on occasion. I particularly like this one because no modification of the stock is necessary, such as unscrewing the front sling-swivel stud. It just tightens down against the sides of the forearm and doesn't leave a mark when removed.

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The purpose I see for such attachments is to get a better idea of the true accuracy potential of your rifle and to facilitate more precise assessment of ammo. You eliminate much of the rolling and movement of the rifle in the front bag that can detract from getting a meaningful picture of the accuracy potential of your rifle/ammo combination.

As for aesthetics, I much prefer clamping one of these rigs on for a few hours of testing to see what my rifle is capable of as it stands (i.e., without a tuner), removing it when I'm finished, to screwing on a tuner that has to remain in place to produce the optimized results in the future. The forearm rig doesn't change the inherent accuracy of the action/barrel and gives you a much better idea of just how accurate that rifle/ammo combination will be when being shot in the future without it installed. Frankly, I find tuners ugly and haven't used one in years.
 
Great info Glenn as always! Our range has just been redone at E. L., you are always welcome to shoot those .25s here lol!
 
Glenn,
Many thanks for taking the time to make such an informative post.
Very much appreciated.

Gilbert
 
Thanks for the kind words, gentlemen.

Ralph, that adapter you show is a very nice one. I agree that adapters like that are very useful indeed for helping determine how well a rifle can shoot. BR-style adapters do help a great deal in eliminating or at least reducing considerably rifle roll and movement in the front rest.

Thank you for this!! Very informative. I'm just getting into the shooting sport, and am soaking up as much as I can.

Question, I was contemplating making my own rest bags. Well, in all honesty, my wife is addicted to quilting and has agreed to sew some up for me. :) What is a good internal media for them? I was leaning towards soybeans, sort of like making a beanbag. Is this suitable, or is there something better?

There is a variety of media that can be used in a shooting bag. One of the first pieces of range equipment I tried was a simple Caldwell shooting bag. These usually come to you empty to reduce shipping costs.



I think I did use soybeans to fill it. I haven't used it in a while, but I still have it somewhere. Some people report using other material like kitty litter. The key thing is to avoid letting it get wet because whatever is used inside as fill can respond undesirably to water.

Something I've been eyeing recently as I wait for my range to reopen is a shooting rest top with an adjustable front bag. It can accommodate a three inch wide BR rifle stock as well as sporters with much narrower forearms. This top can be used with the readily available Caldwell BR front rest; it simply replaces the Caldwell top. A lot of bench shooters often start with the Caldwell BR rest and this can be a step up as it has good adjustment features.

 
If I'm not mistaken, Glenn, that's a Greenlaw Machining windage top. I have that exact model, and it's very nice. The machining and precision are outstanding. I have the 3 in. Protektor front bag with the slippery cloth in it. I drop it into my Bald Eagle rest.

Another option would be the Bald Eagle rest. It's an excellent piece of equipment. You could probably buy the whole Bald Eagle rest--which has a very nice windage top--for less than the Greenlaw top.

Edit. I'd better edit my last comment. I just did a little digging and was unable to find a Bald Eagle front rest for sale in Canada. No matter, really; you can just drop the Greenlaw Machining windage top into your Caldwell front rest base.
 
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Thanks for the kind words, gentlemen.



There is a variety of media that can be used in a shooting bag. One of the first pieces of range equipment I tried was a simple Caldwell shooting bag. These usually come to you empty to reduce shipping costs.



I think I did use soybeans to fill it. I haven't used it in a while, but I still have it somewhere. Some people report using other material like kitty litter. The key thing is to avoid letting it get wet because whatever is used inside as fill can respond undesirably to water.

Thank you. Will put that on the list to check out as well.
 
Glenn:

just wanted to add my thanks for the great thread.

Did you make or purchase the green fore-end benchrest adapter? If the latter can you tell me where you got it, and if self made could you confirm how. It looks to me like the bottom is made of PTFE (plastic teflon) that is ideal for free rifle technique. While expensive, PTFE is perfect for front rests.

Many, many thanks,
 
Ralph, that is the Greenlaw adjustable bag windage top. The adjustable front bag on this particular Greenlaw top seems to offer a great deal of flexibility. In the end perhaps a one-piece front bag may work better, but I can't say (yet). I have an older Bald Eagle front rest (shown in the first picture in the OP) and its adjustments are finer and more responsive than the Caldwell BR rests I have.

Duncan, the adjustable adapter is from Brownells. According to the retailer, the base is made of UHMW, which is "ultra high molecular weight" polyethylene, a material I hadn't heard of before. To find the adapter, google "brownells forend benchrest adapter".
 


This is a piece of "Delrin" (not sure of the spelling) that was given to me. It was a spare piece after the donor had used a similar piece on his Martini.
It is screwed through to the rail using the existing holes. Never tried any tricks to make it slide. It has a fair bit of resistance as it is rough.
 
That must be a newer Greenlaw windage top than mine, Glenn. I hadn't noticed the adjustable bag feature. I can see the advantage of being able to use only the one bag sides and bottom. I have several Protektor bags--a 3.0" and a couple that are more like 2.5" and 2.0". I use the Protektor #1 Small Owl Ear Front Bag with slippery cloth (it's about 1.25" - 1.5" between the ears) in this top with my rifles that have narrow schnabel forearms, like the Anschutz 1712 and 1727F, and I clamp the ears fairly snugly against the forearm sides to reduce any tendency to roll. Here's my setup with the 3" bag in place:

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Edit. I see that Protektor Model is now listing a very nice front rest with windage-adjustable top that resembles the cast aluminum slingshot-style Bald Eagle model. It is the Cast Aluminum Windage Long Range Front Shooting Rest - #61 shown below:

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The price seems very good for what looks like a decent-quality piece of equipment--a good entry-level front rest. For all those who have mourned the loss of access in Canada to Bald Eagle rests, this one--at a similar price to what the Bald Eagle models sold for--might fill the bill. Protektor Model also offers the same rest without the windage-adjustable top for $100 less.

(I trust that is acceptable for a forum member to show new equipment here when it appears.)
 
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That Protektor windage front rest must have been listed only very recently, Ralph. Only two months ago I contacted the good people at Protektor about ordering a 3" front bag (the one shown in the second picture in the OP); I also asked about a windage front rest. They said they had a windage adjustable model coming out but were not sure when. Only a few weeks ago this rest did not appear on their website. It looks like it would be a good one for $295 USD, with the front bag being extra. Shipping, of course, is expensive for the complete unit, at over $75 USD. Nevertheless, with windage adjustable front rests hard to get in Canada -- the exception being the Caldwell BR -- there's not an abundance of choices.


Horseman2, I have tried delrin or something very similar, too. It was suggested to me by the late savagecanuck (Ryan) who was kind enough sent me a sample to try out. It is a good material to use for adapter plates. I turned to using wood because it is readily available.
 
The plate i run on the front of my 40x is either delrin or uhmw. It works great with the 3" front bag in my Cowan rest.



the plate is machined to fit where the factory had stop rail went and used the same screws.
 
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