front rest f-class?

F/Open - 10kg (22#). Attached bipod included in weight, non-attached rests not included in weight.

F/TR - 8.25kg. Weight includes bipod.


Ontario also has a "Sporter" or "factory" class, I am not sure of weight limits for that.
 
rnbra-shooter said:
Every single poster above has given you great advice.

Are you set up to load ammo for it yet, have you chosen brass/primer/powder/bullets yet?

You can use pretty much any match bullet out to 600, though it would be nice if you could use one of the better "heavies". I can think of the Hornady 75 BTHP or 75 A-Max - anybody else have any good suggestions? (Hmm, I see Mystic Precision has Berger 70 VLDs - are they in stock Jerry, and are they a "fussy" bullet to get working or would they be a good "easy" bullet for a newer shooter?)


EDIT: Jason is in northern NB, we're hoping he comes down (4+ hour drive) and shoots with us a few times this year.
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I have the 75gr VLD onhand and can get the 70's in a few weeks.

Not had any issues getting these bullets to shoot. 10 thou off the land. work up in 0.1gr increments of Varget, CCI 450, WIN cases properly prepped and Bob's your Uncle.

Jerry
 
rnbra-shooter said:
F/Open - 10kg (22#). Attached bipod included in weight, non-attached rests not included in weight.

F/TR - 8.25kg. Weight includes bipod.


Ontario also has a "Sporter" or "factory" class, I am not sure of weight limits for that.
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I learned at the Nationals that your Bipod is NOT included in the overall weight if you shoot in Open Class in the US. Our rules include the attached Bipod.

It is included if shooting FTR though.
 
CyaN1de said:
I learned at the Nationals that your Bipod is NOT included in the overall weight if you shoot in Open Class in the US. Our rules include the attached Bipod.
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That really sounds odd, wow. As far as I know, they *should* have included the weight of the bipod in the rifle weight limit, even in F/Open. I wonder if they made a "local exception" to the rules?

http://www.nrahq.org/compete/rules/fullbore_07.pdf - pg. 43, rule 3.4(a)

(1) The rifle’s overall weight, including all attachments such as sights and bipod, must not exceed 10 kilograms (approximately 22 pounds).[...snip...]
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(Just so nobody gets confused, those are the US's rules. They are fairly similar but not absolutely identical to the international rules that Canada is now using:

http://www.icfra.co.uk/ICFRA_F-ClassTECHNICAL_RULES_2007_promulgation_copy_A4.pdf
 
I had 3 people INSIST that it was not included in the weight as it was classified as my rest while I argued that this was not the case.

I made sure to weigh in with the bipod to be sure either way.

Odd indeed.
 
rnbra-shooter said:
Every single poster above has given you great advice.

Are you set up to load ammo for it yet, have you chosen brass/primer/powder/bullets yet?
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I have about 600 75 grain A-MAX bullets and 300 75 grain amax moly coated. 6lbs varget. About 10LBS of wc735. I do not have any benchrest small rifle primers. I have about 4,000 standard primers of various manufacture. And 1000 small rifle magnum primers. I have not done any load development. The only thing I did was load a 100 rounds at max pressure to see if the 1-9 would stabilize the 75 Grain bullet.

At 100 yards their is no evidence of tumbling. I was waiting to get the boyds stock to arrive, and bedded before I trying to work up a load.
 
CyaN1de said:
I learned at the Nationals that your Bipod is NOT included in the overall weight if you shoot in Open Class in the US. Our rules include the attached Bipod.

It is included if shooting FTR though.
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They shoot according to NRA rules. They are not a member of ICFRA, which is why you shot the NRA target too.

I did not know about the bipod rule. Interesting.
 
You're set. Save the WC735 for something else (do you have an AR15?), use the Varget. Use any of your standard rifle primers, don't worry about not having match primers they are unlikely to make any difference (but if you want, I'll trade you F205M's on a one-for-one basis for regular small rifle primers, when we meet at the range this summer).
 
If the bipod is not part of the rifle weight, I guess I will build that 35lbs multi adjustable, industrial grade, hydraulic actuated 'rest'.

Haven't decided if I will use batteries or solar?

Quick release? if you consider spinning off 4 large machine bolts quick, then yes, I guess it would be.

Could be why the US don't pay much attention to the 223. With a potentially 45 to 50lbs rifle on the ground and still make weight, what recoil?

I think someone is missing the point of the bipod/rifle weight rule.

Our rule was explained to me quite nicely a while back - if you pick up the rifle and it leaves the ground with the rifle, its part of the rifle weight.

Glad our rules are nice and clear.

Jerry
 
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