frontier bullets???

[chevy_boy]

http://www.marstar.ca/ammo-etc/rl-frontier-hg.shtm

any one ever try these bullets before? are they any good?

i am just trying to find a cheap bullet for IPSC.

 

[Canuck223]

I've been using the 147gr 9mm, and love them.

 

[Hoser-eh]

I use the 115 and the 124g in 9mm.
Consistent quality.

Use load data for lead bullets, not FMJ.

 

[Chizzy]

Use load data for lead bullets, not FMJ.

Interesting. From another Internet forum an employee of Frontier was quoted as saying the following:

hxxp://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1087492 - Post #14


"Good day Peter,
Unfortunately, we do not have access to any powders apart from the South African Somchem powders.

Treat the bullets the same as any FMJ bullet of the same weight and load according to the data of the powder manufacturers.

Please let us know how you are doing and once you have worked out your loads?

Kind regards,
Susan Economakis
Frontier Metal Processing"

Regards,

Chizzy

 

[rollie100]

all i shoot is frontier anything else is to expensive. i order from higginson, and he told me he loads the frontier CMJ's the same as FMJ's.

stay below 1200 vel/fps and you'll be fine...

 

[GSoD]

Its cheap enough so its good enough for me. I use 180grain in a .40cal Glock 22. Two seperate loads pattern as good as factory.

 

[kharlingca]

I have been using the 9mm 124gr CMJ's, loaded with 4.1gr of titegoup in my S&W M&P for 2 two years. They have been great

My only issues I wouldn't use them for accuracy shooting at 50m

 

[Hoser-eh]

From Rainier Ballistics website:

We, at Rainier Ballistics, recommend using lead bullet load data when loading our bullets. There is no need for adjustment when using lead bullet load data. Our bullets are jacketed using an electroplating process and are softer than traditionally jacketed bullets; hence the recommendation to use lead bullet load data. If you only have access to traditionally jacketed load data, we recommend reducing maximum charge by 10%. A roll or taper crimp may be used with our bullets; do not over crimp.


I have searched the Frontier website and have found no official statement from them concerning this. I think they should provide one though.

 

[762nato]

Bullets are consistant and shoot well. Have notice a swirl of grey stuff around the bullet hole on targets while using these bullets, not to sure what it is but the way they shoot don't think the coating is comming off...

 

[Glock_2010]

Use it for production and standard will be fine. Don't use it for open guns.
You need a harder bullets to do the job such as AIM.

 

[Cerdan]

I've come to avoid using them in heavy revolver rounds. Heavy roll crimping can cause the plating to come loose. Shrapnel shooting out the cylinder gap... I once found a long strip of copper lodged between the barrel and frame, just outside the forcing cone!

But yeah, they do the trick in pistol cartridges. I prefer AIM or Cam-Pro plated bullets though (both manufactured in Canada).

 

[bizman89]

Use it for production and standard will be fine. Don't use it for open guns.
You need a harder bullets to do the job such as AIM.

Curious as to why you would say this. Actual experience/knowledge or opinion? Not being sarcastic, just wondering?

 

[rollie100]

does anyone have LEAD load data for...

124gr and 115gr RN, Titegoup/universal or hodgdon in general.

all i have is the lee manual, and it only lists accur load data for lead.

 

[Cocked&Locked]

I've used a couple thousand of these in 45 and 9, nothing but consistant good results. I've also used their full wadcutters in 38, good cheap accurate bullets

 

[Canuck223]

Curious as to why you would say this. Actual experience/knowledge or opinion? Not being sarcastic, just wondering?

Plated bullets are not known for holding up intact when fired at high velocity and pressure, or through a comp.

Since most plated bullets are made with a swaged core, they tend to be softer, and shed the copper jacket leading to erratic accuracy when loaded hot. They also need to be gently crimped, relying more on case mouth tension than a hearty crimp. Over crimping can weaken the copper jacket.

True jacketed bullets have a much thicker jacket than a plated bullet, and hold together.

AIM has tried to blend the best of both worlds, by casting a core of a hard lead alloy, then plating the 124gr 9mm bullets with 4.5 thou of copper.

 

[Breaker61]

All I shoot in my 40's is 160 gr Frontiers. I use mid range jacketed data. Great accuracy and zero problems.

 

[tjhaile]

does anyone have LEAD load data for...

124gr and 115gr RN, Titegoup/universal or hodgdon in general.

all i have is the lee manual, and it only lists accur load data for lead.

There's lots of data on the Hodgdon website for Hodgdon, IMR, and Winchester powders:

http://data.hodgdon.com

 

[saskcop]

I use 230 grainers in .45 acp and found them blast their jackets off on occasion. They are not as accurate as other bullets, but for the price are ok.

 

[COREY]

I use the 147 9mm bullets since they are cheap; I have better accuracy with 124 grain Hornady FMJ though.

 

[bizman89]

Plated bullets are not known for holding up intact when fired at high velocity and pressure, or through a comp.

Since most plated bullets are made with a swaged core, they tend to be softer, and shed the copper jacket leading to erratic accuracy when loaded hot. They also need to be gently crimped, relying more on case mouth tension than a hearty crimp. Over crimping can weaken the copper jacket.

True jacketed bullets have a much thicker jacket than a plated bullet, and hold together.

AIM has tried to blend the best of both worlds, by casting a core of a hard lead alloy, then plating the 124gr 9mm bullets with 4.5 thou of copper.

I was always told the same thing (plated not for open) but the frontiers seem to work incredibly well for me. Reliablilty is there and accuracy is as good as any plated I have tried. The gun can shoot one patch size groups at 18m (with a rest of course) . More the gun than me. I would buy as many as I could get but they are hard to find right now. I bought them when montana golds became hard to get and haven't missed them one bit. I may try the AIM , its just that you hate to change what seems to work well with the gun.