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Fellow gunnies,

I have problem that I tried to research on the internet but seeing how the internet is there are 10 million different solutions to the same problem, but none of them are confirmed to work. I have a Colt 1911 Rail Gun, shot 250 rounds through it without any problems or hickups of any sorts. After shooting I lightly cleaned the barrel and action with some action cleaner and cleaned the barrel/bore with patches. The following weekend I went to the range and when I went to load the chamber the top round of the magazine did a "nose dive" into the feed ramp and got stuck. I thought it was the magazine maybe so I tried other magazines but have the same problem. Has anyone experienced this before? If so how did you fix it? Please help.
 
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I oiled it, and the round was all the way back in the magazine. I used the same 230gr American Eagle FMJ's I did the last time.
 
All of my 1911s have EGW "higher" mag catches. This places the magazine 0.020" higher in the mag well than standard. Any nose-dive issues I've seen have been eliminated as a result.
 
as you said, the only thing you did was cleaning and oil the gun, I have to assume it's either too much oil somewhere, or assembly problem.
I would do it again, disassemble, wipe it all down, reapply thin film oil and reassemble? then a standard factory safety check procedure with dummy rounds.

Also, by any chance you disassebled/cleaned your mags in any way when you cleaned the gun?


Outcold said:
Fellow gunnies,




I have problem that I tried to research on the internet but seeing how the internet is there are 10 million different solutions to the same problem, but none of them are confirmed to work. I have a Colt 1911 Rail Gun, shot 250 rounds through it without any problems or hickups of any sorts. After shooting I lightly cleaned the barrel and action with some action cleaner and cleaned the barrel/bore with patches. The following weekend I went to the range and when I went to load the chamber the top round of the magazine did a "nose dive" into the feed ramp and got stuck. I thought it was the magazine maybe so I tried other magazines but have the same problem. Has anyone experienced this before? If so how did you fix it? Please help.
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I hate to say it, but it sounds like the rails are gummed up somehow. This is assuming that there were no other changes. If the slide is not moving forward at full speed this can happen. An out of tune extractor can cause this, as can a weak spring, but this was sudden and after a cleaning. I'd try cleaning it again with detail on the rails.
 
Take your mags apart carefully and clean well. Use no oil on them (or just what is on your fingers at the time). Do this first.
Do you know anyone with other 1911 mags like some wilson combats? Give those a try.
Please DO NOT start polishing or dremel anything.
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I've done a lot of reading on polishing feed ramps, and the conclusion is that an amateur job often does more harm than good. From what I read, the smoothness of the feed ramp has little effect on feeding unless it's REALLY gritty. Getting a mirror like finish is unnessesary.
 
The feed ramp feels smooth, it almost seems like the round gets pushed forward in the magazine when I am inserting it. I am not sure what it causing it to do that, but when I rack the slide the first round just drops down instead of up into the chamber.
 
gravel said:
fdc said:
Open up the feed lips on your mags 0.10" at a time and test.[/QUOTE
Adjusting mag lips is a high risk maneuver and hard to do accurately. It's something that can go wrong
as often as right.
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I've done it plenty of times and it ain't rocket science. Find a mag that works, use a dial caliper to measure the lips and then replicate. This is competent hobby guy stuff. I agree that if you don't understand what is involved you are likely best to take this to someone in the know. This being said a bit of diligent research and careful work will get results. High risk? I don't understand, more bend, bend back...

Note: the feed lips need to be measured back to front. Don't assume that they are parallel, I have found that the spec at the front is most important.

Reloading ammo is way more tricky if you ask me.
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One of the major risks in adjusting mag lips even while having proper tools "Ie calipers" is that because mags are generally made of hardened steel the risk of cracking increases with each "Bend, bend back". Even without a crack I've seen them lose their temper leading to them opening up prematurely. That's one of the risks. I have come across many a buggered messed with mag over the years. I am sure that some know what they are doing but there may be others that may not be able to get a good result with just one "Bend" thus leading to potential problems.
 
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Smcx said:
I've done a lot of reading on polishing feed ramps, and the conclusion is that an amateur job often does more harm than good. From what I read, the smoothness of the feed ramp has little effect on feeding unless it's REALLY gritty. Getting a mirror like finish is unnessesary.
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You won't do any harm unless you remove metal,such as using a Dremel.I just use a bit of cream type polish,haven't had any issues and seem's to help feed LRN....
 
Did you clean the extractor and channel when you had it apart? Maybe there is a fouling/oil gumming it up so it can't move properly to let the round slide up under it?
 
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