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foxbat

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I was finishing up my week of golf ( don't laugh!) in Scottdale, Arizona and dropped by the Scottsdale Gun Club....very nice, high quality establishment...
The products on the wall made me want to cry..full auto trigger groups for H&K products, silencers, all of the short barreled autos and revolvers which are prohibited in Kanada....almost too much to bare!
Got a chance to trial a FN P90 (5.7x28) in select fire, with a Trijicon Tri-power optic...short, easy to handle, minimal recoil even in full auto...horrible, heavy, creepy, military trigger..went though my two, 25 round mags in a hurry!
Also put a couple of 25 round mags though an H&K UMP in 9MM....better trigger and ergonomics than the FN...just as easy to control in full auto, just not as '###y' a calibre....Without the select fire option, either just wouldn't 'do it' for me...the novelty factor would wear off pretty soon, and the price of ownership (purchase price on the UMP, ammo cost for the P90) is prohibitive.
Also got a chance to put a box of ammo through a Glock 30...the compact model in 45ACP, and was very impressed with the handling, tolerable recoil and accuracy. I already own, and am fond of my Glock 21, but now I may have to give Mark at Questar a call and order up a 30 as well!
 
Bought a G30 from Mark almost 2 years ago now. Great pistol. Love it. Works perfectly. Little tricky to be accurate with due to the short sight radius. Of course your 21 mags will work as well.
 
The UMP has the same controlability in F/A as the P90? I would have thought the UMP would have been far worse...I guess assuming makes me the fool.
So neither had any more jump than the other? Can you be specific about rise and recoil? And whats your height and weight?

Just want some comparison figures. :D
 
ilovepotatos said:
The UMP has the same controlability in F/A as the P90? I would have thought the UMP would have been far worse...I guess assuming makes me the fool.
So neither had any more jump than the other? Can you be specific about rise and recoil? And whats your height and weight?

Just want some comparison figures. :D
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I'm 5'10" and weigh 185.....
The cyclic rate on the P90 was quite a bit higher....and the recoil impulses were shorter, but sharper, than the 9MM. The 5.7 was definately tougher to keep on 'center of mass' than the 9MM.
The heavier, 'numb', trigger didn't help on the FN...
The 'ergos' on the UMP were better, and with the slower 'push' of the 9MM, to my, and apparently your, surprise the H&K was my favorite of the two.
I appreciate the better ballistics of the 5.7, and would probably come around given more 'trigger time'.......
Hard to make a firm judgment, given that I only had 50 rounds through each.
 
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