German Mauser ??

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Anyone know what this is ?

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It has an octagonal barrel with a raised ramp at 12 O'clock with wavy scrolling on the ramp. There is non descript decorative scrolling on the other metal work as well. The only other visible markings include a crown with an "N" under it, the word GERMANY, part of another crown, 18.35 Gr, m, Lt, and what looks like a small crucifix.

It was given to an uncle of mine along with a box of ammunition. Ammo box reads:

"Manufactured at the Kynoch factories of imperial chemical industries Ltd. Metals Division, Witton, Birmingham England". Calibre = 9mm M KYNOCH.

Now, the under side of the barrel on this rifle is stamped "8.9mm" !

My guess is that this is a German Mauser. Is anyone out there familiar with this rifle ? Is the 9 mm ammo that came with it really safe to fire from it ? Last but not least, any ideas what this might be worth ? Is it just another old rifle or would a collector be interested in it ?
 
Looks like a commercial Mauser that has been bubba'ed a little bit, in 9x57 (9mm or 8.9 Mauser). You can neck up and shorten 8x57 brass, and swage down 358 bullets, or use 9mm bullets (which are 355). If you keep the loads relatively mild you can just shoot 358 bullets in them, at least that's what we did back in the day. Hard to tell from the pic, but it looks like the barrel sight has been removed and some sort of peep has been added, which may contribute to the accuracy of shooting the rifle, but doesn't do anything for it's value/collectability. The Kynoch 9mm ammo should be worth a decent price to a collector though. If you have larger/more pictures, send them to me and I will try and give you more info then that. - dan
 
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If my memory is correct that looks like a Lyman 36 receiver sight which is quite sought after and is fairly valuable by itself. The last one I saw was on a Maurice Ottmar custom Mauser and that is pretty good company for any sight.

Depending on condition and how much of the rifle is original it could have fair value to either a collector or shooter. The 9X57 is a decent cartridge but you should do a chamber cast or get it checked with a headspace gauge to be certain that is what it is..
 
stocker said:
If my memory is correct that looks like a Lyman 36 receiver sight which is quite sought after and is fairly valuable by itself. The last one I saw was on a Maurice Ottmar custom Mauser and that is pretty good company for any sight.

Depending on condition and how much of the rifle is original it could have fair value to either a collector or shooter. The 9X57 is a decent cartridge but you should do a chamber cast or get it checked with a headspace gauge to be certain that is what it is..
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Good advice there! Make sure of what you have!:)
 
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