German Soldiers Don’t Trust Their Battle Rifle

The article isn't very precise in its claims. They (how many people?) fired 28,000 rounds during a 10 hour firefight in the desert and they are surprised that guns over heated? I'm no fan of the G36 but ffs just piss on the thing and soldier on.
 
yohann160 said:
The article isn't very precise in its claims. They (how many people?) fired 28,000 rounds during a 10 hour firefight in the desert and they are surprised that guns over heated? I'm no fan of the G36 but ffs just piss on the thing and soldier on.
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I found the part funny where they mention the 28000 rounds fired and no Taliban casualties. The way the author wrote the paragraph he implies it was the gun's fault the German's cant hit their targets.
 
Stupid article wrote by someone who has little to know nothing at all and represents bad journalism at its finest. It has it's routes in another article wrote a few years back by a leftist socialist hack. This article has been regurgitated and re-written by the competition most likely, the German army should go with the 416/417 anyway for Nato familiarity. They are already employing the G28 and 416 in KSK.
 
As bizarre as it seems, there are a LOT of rounds fired for every casualty.
IIRC, it was about 50,000 rounds per death in WW1.
And in Vietnam, it was about 200,000 per dead enemy!
 
What I have heard from boxheads I know is that they do not trust the rifle in combat. Regardless of the article, there is an issue with the firearm by the people whose lives depend on it for more than a tight group at the range. That being said Bundeswehr markemnship was never overly high amongst the short timers.
 
Geez obvious much. +40 heat and 28,000rds thru what a squad, platoon ? of course the damn thing gonna overheat. Its a rifle, not a damn GMPG or LMG.
 
I talked to a dude and handled his G36, and it weighed next to nothing. But that being said, the guy had nothing bad to say about his service weapon and was actually quite ecstatic over it and his side arm. But if Germany doesn't want them, then I'd be down to buy a G36c at Milsurp prices.
 
from what i've read by people who should know, on here and other sights is that the g36 with its polymer barrel block/extension thing in the rifle, is the issue. The build up of heat from sustained fire supposedly causes warping/shifting of the block which leads to wandering zero that cannot be fixed. IIRC, it might have been kevinb mentioning it here.
 
Heh, enlisted men complaining about their issued gear... Pretty shocking if you ask me.

For the amount of combat the Germans experience, the G36 is in fact overkill.
 
DoubleA said:
Heh, enlisted men complaining about their issued gear... Pretty shocking if you ask me.

For the amount of combat the Germans experience, the G36 is in fact overkill.
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Until Putin decides to roll in because his people are starving due to sanctions and oil prices bottoming. Germany would be quite an economic prize for the Tzar.
 
This is a G36 thread, so take that Russian Strong or German Strong comments outta here.

G36 zero shifting has been said for years. The barrel trunnion molded into plastic and the cheapo Hensoldt 3.5X power sight are the problems. There is also something about the receiver flexing.
 
I've had a lot of opportunity to run a G36 since my best friend is an owner. I have put a fair amount of rounds down range, and though I'm no German solider... I'll stick to my Tavor, since he's is in the NR class.
 
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tootall said:
As bizarre as it seems, there are a LOT of rounds fired for every casualty.
IIRC, it was about 50,000 rounds per death in WW1.
And in Vietnam, it was about 200,000 per dead enemy!
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See, that's the advantage of smaller, lighter cartridges!

You shoot a lot more of them and buy stock in DuPont. :rolleyes:
 
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