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Hello everyone.
I live in GTA, Ontario. I'd like to learn how to shoot well. Handgun, maybe some rifles too. But I don't like idea of storing weapon in my house (for whatever reason). So the question for experienced guys: is there any benefit in getting PAL license in this case?

I did some research and looks like renting a weapon at shooting range costs the same no matter if you have PAL or not, correct me if I'm wrong. Another thought - is there anything like secured storage where you could have your guns and take them when you need to shoot?

Any advise would be appreciated, thanks!
 
I don't know of any clubs/ranges offering firearm storage. It's a liability for the club to have firearms permanently stored on the premises. Non-restricted firearms can be stored at any place (provided they are adequately stored), such as a rented storage unit, but restricted firearms must be stored at your registered address unless the CFO will sign off on alternate storage (not gonna happen in Ontario).
 
Well first off no place will rent you a weapon. The use of weapons are against the law. Calling a gun a weapon in the firearm community will get you flamed quick.
There are many places that do rent guns for shooting sports. In the case of a resticted firearm it may only be stored at the address it is registered to, the same address that your RPAL is associated with, and Your LTATT will list as to and from.

With the current storage laws I see no reason in not wanting the have your gun close to you, unless there is pressure from a parent spouse,ect.

Take the courses PAL for nonresticted (most long guns) and RPAL for resticted (handguns) you will soon see and realize that storage laws are there for peoples safety. even if you never use the licence at least you will have it for later.

Or you find shooting fun but you aren't sure if firearms are really your thing in this case rent till you are sure.
 
I don't know why you don't want to store the WEAPON at your house.. But in this case it doesn't make sense to own one.. It's like buying a car to drive when you live on and work on a boat year round...
 
klask7 said:
Hello everyone.
I live in GTA, Ontario. I'd like to learn how to shoot well. Handgun, maybe some rifles too. But I don't like idea of storing weapon in my house (for whatever reason). So the question for experienced guys: is there any benefit in getting PAL license in this case?

I did some research and looks like renting a weapon at shooting range costs the same no matter if you have PAL or not, correct me if I'm wrong. Another thought - is there anything like secured storage where you could have your guns and take them when you need to shoot?

Any advise would be appreciated, thanks!
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Welcome to THIS side of WORLD . Get the PAL , Leave the GTA , Buy some FIREARMS , Do as much SHOOTING , YOU don't need someone else's SHOULDER , IF you stay with US
 
Thanks for responses guys! I did not know using gun vs weapon terms is such a sensitive thing. Political correctness everywhere, huh? :)

So, in other words, just like I suspected - there is no reason in having PAL and not buying and keeping WEAPON ;) at home.
 
It's a legal term. Owning or referring to a weapon signals an intent to cause harm. Unfortunately, that's useable in court as I understand it. Extreme, and wouldn't hold water on its own, but it won't help you.

If you do not feel comfortable having a gun at home (untrustworthy roommates, constantly moving, etc etc) then Non restricteds are easy, especially if you buy a safe of some kind. For me it was another cgn'er while I was in residence at university (guns on campus = utter panic and societal meltdown) who stored my guns at his place. We went shooting together so it was easy.

Restricteds may differ in ontario, but they can be "on loan" to anyone with the same class of liscence as I believe. Same as it staying at a gun store to be worked on, where it's "on loan" to the gun smith. Your ATT won't permit you to go from your house to his with it, so he would take possession of it at a range and for safety sake, you would give him a copy of the certificate for the gun that had your signature and "on long term loan" written on the back.

I would say, get your PAL and RPAL. It's cheapest to get them together, eventually you'll come across a steal of a deal on a restricted and you'll want to buy it.

Welcome to the community and hope to hear of you getting shooting soon!
 
Sounds like guns are not really your thing.

IMO Guns are a lifestyle these days, and that takes some comitment. Keeping them at home, for most of us, is part of that lifestyle, a positive thing, and, in a worst case, a safety benefit.
 
hey here is a good question raised by one of these posts. If you lived on a University campus would you not be allowed to have your guns in your apartment. Even with the proper safe I don't see them allowing it. Or if you had forgotten a shotgun in your trunk would you be hung if somehow someone found you had a gun in your car parked in the parking lot. seems pretty ridiculous. too many scared sheeple I guess.
 
(notwithstanding this being troll fodder...)

Get both licenses, especially if this is all new to you. Every ounce of knowledge helps. Safety needs to be instinctive and ingrained. Ask questions. It's highly doubtful that someone with the patience to give the courses, for what it brings them in terms of 'income', will ever scoff or refuse to answer your questions.

If you want to own a firearm but for some reason have issues with where you currently live... My club offers storage on-site. Inquire with clubs near you and find one that does the same if that's what you desire.

If that's not viable, exceed the regulations on safe storage as a starting point (most people do already). Be discreet. Consider not having ammunition at the same premises. If there is no ammunition what's a restricted pistol but an awful hammer at best.
 
klask7 said:
Hello everyone.
I live in GTA, Ontario. I'd like to learn how to shoot well. Handgun, maybe some rifles too. But I don't like idea of storing weapon in my house (for whatever reason). So the question for experienced guys: is there any benefit in getting PAL license in this case?
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Once you move out of Mom & Dad's, you'll be able to store them. But yea, get your PAL/RPAL while you still can!
 
Getting the license means nothing if any kind of ban were to be put into place it would mean he would not be able to purchase any restricted guns. We would be lucky to be allowed to keep what we already have. I have encouraged my friends, and family who are interested to go and get your RPAL, and buy at least one handgun if you ever want to have one in the future. Just like the grandfathering of the prohibs, you had to have the gun already.
 
I sense in your posts guys that something horrible is coming? Are they soon going to ban all guns, licenses and sterilize all men or something? ;)
 
klask7 said:
Hello everyone.
I live in GTA, Ontario. I'd like to learn how to shoot well. Handgun, maybe some rifles too. But I don't like idea of storing weapon in my house (for whatever reason).;) So the question for experienced guys: is there any benefit in getting PAL license in this case?

I did some research and looks like renting a weapon at shooting range costs the same no matter if you have PAL or not, correct me if I'm wrong. Another thought - is there anything like secured storage where you could have your guns and take them when you need to shoot?

Any advise would be appreciated, thanks!
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:D

But I don't like idea of storing weapon in my house (for whatever reason).;)
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Definitely heard that one a couple of times before. :rolleyes:

FESS UP !

The wifey's an anti &/or doesn't want guns around the kids so she laid the law down.

Sad part is that if she really doesn't want you to have a PAL & doesn't sign your app........they'll interview her & if she raises strong objections you probably won't be issued one anyway so the question is moot.
 
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klask7 said:
Hello everyone.
I live in GTA, Ontario. I'd like to learn how to shoot well. Handgun, maybe some rifles too. But I don't like idea of storing weapon in my house
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Well then find another hobby... 'Just sayin', you're either into it or you're not.
 
Ya, ya, I hear you guys :) I can say all the same things to myself ;). But, you never know before you ask - that's why I'm asking here - the place where most knowledgeable guys hang out.
 
Get both licences, join a club or two and shoot as many different firearms as you can. Most people you meet at ranges will let you hold or even shoot their firearms if you look interested and don't act like a tool. Ask questions and buy some books and magazines. After all of that you will want to change your living arrangements to facilitate firearm ownership.
 
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