Gevarm 20 rd aftermarker mags
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JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I bought 2 of them. They are excellent mags, well made of good blued steel
Here's my report...
"well i got to try them this weekend. Tried them on a somewhat battered takedown gevarm. brought a well used original factory magazine as well
I found both new magazines to be a very tight fit at first. however with some oil on the magazines and encouragement with a nylon hammer, they both seated well. after about 10 seatings, they went in & out easily by hand and locked firmly in position. To remove it , it was necessary at times to put upwards (gunwards) pressure on the magazine to get the mag release lever to move. This may have been due to the gun's magazine well being dirty as well. The vertical positioning relative to the bolt seemed perfect (as opposed to the stock one, which had a fair bit of horizontal and vertical slop). both mags accepted 21 rounds and looked like they would take 22. i limited tests to 20
Started with the Gevarm bolt set for high velocity ammo cycling ran remington hi velocity hollowpoints through all 3 mags . the stock mag and one of the new mags functioned perfectly both in rapid fire and slow fire . The second new mag gave me stovepipe stoppages . I attributed this to either the mag perhaps being seated a little high so the bolt was dragging on the top of the mag lips a bit on its backwards movement which slowed it enough so that the empty shell wasn't hitting the ejector (left lip) with enough velocity to clear the chamber (my theory), or possibly the left lip is a little too far forward which means that the accelerating empty hasn't reached enough velocity.. so i reset the gevarm bolt to cycle regular velocity ammo (thereby increasing bolt speed) and the problem went away. the gun also functioned perfectly with a box of federal that I had on hand.
so all in all i'm very happy with the functioning of the mags. i'm especially happy with the tight tolerances on the seating which is a lot better than the stock ones which can give feeding issues if they are nudged out of position. ,The spacing adjustment can be fixed by minor stoning on the positioning notch or the feedlips or the fun route ( which i will follow of course
) of running a couple of hundred rounds through the mag to allow some wearing in".
There was a proposition made a few months ago on this board and some of us ordered them. As there is work involved in setting this up I will leave it up to the gentleman ( and he is that - I recommend him highly) who arranged the first order to chime in. All i can say is that i'm a happy customer...
Here's my report...
"well i got to try them this weekend. Tried them on a somewhat battered takedown gevarm. brought a well used original factory magazine as well
I found both new magazines to be a very tight fit at first. however with some oil on the magazines and encouragement with a nylon hammer, they both seated well. after about 10 seatings, they went in & out easily by hand and locked firmly in position. To remove it , it was necessary at times to put upwards (gunwards) pressure on the magazine to get the mag release lever to move. This may have been due to the gun's magazine well being dirty as well. The vertical positioning relative to the bolt seemed perfect (as opposed to the stock one, which had a fair bit of horizontal and vertical slop). both mags accepted 21 rounds and looked like they would take 22. i limited tests to 20
Started with the Gevarm bolt set for high velocity ammo cycling ran remington hi velocity hollowpoints through all 3 mags . the stock mag and one of the new mags functioned perfectly both in rapid fire and slow fire . The second new mag gave me stovepipe stoppages . I attributed this to either the mag perhaps being seated a little high so the bolt was dragging on the top of the mag lips a bit on its backwards movement which slowed it enough so that the empty shell wasn't hitting the ejector (left lip) with enough velocity to clear the chamber (my theory), or possibly the left lip is a little too far forward which means that the accelerating empty hasn't reached enough velocity.. so i reset the gevarm bolt to cycle regular velocity ammo (thereby increasing bolt speed) and the problem went away. the gun also functioned perfectly with a box of federal that I had on hand.
so all in all i'm very happy with the functioning of the mags. i'm especially happy with the tight tolerances on the seating which is a lot better than the stock ones which can give feeding issues if they are nudged out of position. ,The spacing adjustment can be fixed by minor stoning on the positioning notch or the feedlips or the fun route ( which i will follow of course
) of running a couple of hundred rounds through the mag to allow some wearing in".There was a proposition made a few months ago on this board and some of us ordered them. As there is work involved in setting this up I will leave it up to the gentleman ( and he is that - I recommend him highly) who arranged the first order to chime in. All i can say is that i'm a happy customer...
Thanks for the response, JohnC.
My mag is giving me some nose dive problems. I take tension off the follower and load them with the mag upside down so that the the cartridge at the feed lips moves more easily into the mag body when the next one is loaded, and stays parallel to it. When shooting after the mag is loaded, after 5 or 6 rounds, I get a failure to feed because the next cartridge to be fed has swung its nose down from angle it needs to have to be flush with the feed lips and ready for pick up.
It seems like the jolts from previous shots are enough to unsettle the remaining column of shells, and some go nose forward. When this happens the whole remaining column of shells has more resistance to movement.
My mag is giving me some nose dive problems. I take tension off the follower and load them with the mag upside down so that the the cartridge at the feed lips moves more easily into the mag body when the next one is loaded, and stays parallel to it. When shooting after the mag is loaded, after 5 or 6 rounds, I get a failure to feed because the next cartridge to be fed has swung its nose down from angle it needs to have to be flush with the feed lips and ready for pick up.
It seems like the jolts from previous shots are enough to unsettle the remaining column of shells, and some go nose forward. When this happens the whole remaining column of shells has more resistance to movement.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Here is something to try for you gevarm shooters. When Silverback and I hunted little bush bunnies using 22 semi auto rifles. He used one time his deluxe gevarm semi and I thought that with 22 long, that his rifle was much much more dependable in a kind of faster semi auto firing pace.
Definitely NOT full auto, but IMHO less tendency to jam and a little quicker cycle.....compared to 22 long rifle cartridges that is......and not CB longs ,regular long cartridges.
Definitely NOT full auto, but IMHO less tendency to jam and a little quicker cycle.....compared to 22 long rifle cartridges that is......and not CB longs ,regular long cartridges.
I have a deluxe "A" model that I changed the spring in. My goal was to get it to consistently fire cb longs in semi auto function. I obtained a spring that was the same diameter as the original, but stiffer. After guesstamating what length I should start with I just kept cutting the coils one by one until I got it to consistently function properly with the cb longs. A rifle that fires semi auto with cb longs makes for a ton of fun in the backyard without disturbing the neighbors.
Ross B.
Ross B.
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
guninhand.
I also found i ran into some nosediving of rounds if I tried to release the tension too much. what also happens is that the rim of top the cartridge runs the risk of getting behind the one below it rather than in front.
what I found works is just to rest the base on a table and load each cartridge in the conventional manner until the follower clears the top solid gap. then you can help by pushing down on the follower -but just a bit!- as you feed rounds in the top. you feed conventionallly as the follower goes past the 2nd solid gap too.
the secret seem to be to pull ot push gently on the follower kind of press rather than move it- you always want some pressure on the top round . what i do too is after about 15 rounds or so I press gently down and shake it a bit to allow the rounds to line up a little better.
This process was taught to me by a gunsmith who sold me a few mags about 3 years ago and I've never had a failure to feed.
ross B - on the takedown ones you can remove the bolt and move the guide at the end of the spring to the rear of the spring from the front (where it nestles inside the bolt). This reduces the bolt mass and allows it to function which lower powered ammo. After reading your post I'll have to try it out with longs subsonics to see what happens!
I also found i ran into some nosediving of rounds if I tried to release the tension too much. what also happens is that the rim of top the cartridge runs the risk of getting behind the one below it rather than in front.
what I found works is just to rest the base on a table and load each cartridge in the conventional manner until the follower clears the top solid gap. then you can help by pushing down on the follower -but just a bit!- as you feed rounds in the top. you feed conventionallly as the follower goes past the 2nd solid gap too.
the secret seem to be to pull ot push gently on the follower kind of press rather than move it- you always want some pressure on the top round . what i do too is after about 15 rounds or so I press gently down and shake it a bit to allow the rounds to line up a little better.
This process was taught to me by a gunsmith who sold me a few mags about 3 years ago and I've never had a failure to feed.
ross B - on the takedown ones you can remove the bolt and move the guide at the end of the spring to the rear of the spring from the front (where it nestles inside the bolt). This reduces the bolt mass and allows it to function which lower powered ammo. After reading your post I'll have to try it out with longs subsonics to see what happens!
Very Interesting....
All this info is GREAT, but we still need to know where the rest of us can partake of this bounty. Is anyone going to tell us? Not all of us were lucky enough to be on the ground floor of this offer.
Come on, Fellas! Loosen up. Let the rest of us in on it. Who, where, how much?
For a trip down memory lane, below is a picture of the Gevarm magazines advertised in the S.I.R. catalog from 1970. Ah....the "Good Old Days." mauser
Yes, there IS a place for all of God's creatures: right next to the potatoes and gravy.
All this info is GREAT, but we still need to know where the rest of us can partake of this bounty. Is anyone going to tell us? Not all of us were lucky enough to be on the ground floor of this offer.
Come on, Fellas! Loosen up. Let the rest of us in on it. Who, where, how much?
For a trip down memory lane, below is a picture of the Gevarm magazines advertised in the S.I.R. catalog from 1970. Ah....the "Good Old Days." mauser
Yes, there IS a place for all of God's creatures: right next to the potatoes and gravy.
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
would be nice - but that would assume the guns and mags were still being produced commercilly. Amazing what scarcity -relative to demand- will do to prices.
out of curiosity i wonder what the price of the rifle itself was in 1970 and what that would be in today's dollars. As far as I can make out today the gun (exclusive of mag values) seems to be going for around $200 plus or minus depending on condition.
out of curiosity i wonder what the price of the rifle itself was in 1970 and what that would be in today's dollars. As far as I can make out today the gun (exclusive of mag values) seems to be going for around $200 plus or minus depending on condition.
Current Prices In U.S.
FYI - Saw an 8-rd for sale at January gun show in Lakeland, FL for $85. As I recall the dealer also had a 20-rd for $150. There's an E1 Model at online auction right now with an ALMOST $600 starter bid on it. Saw an A7 sell online a few months ago for almost $700.
Thanks to another Ontario CGN poster, I have the 1970-'71 S.I.R. catalog so I can share some Gevarm (and other guns) info with you other collectors/shooters. Thanks again, Bob.
For your amusement and amazement, below is a picture of the entire SIR page of Gevarm/Gevelot stuff. (NOTE: the A6 sounds like the E1 action. My A7 HAS a firing pin, etc., and fires on a CLOSED bolt. ENJOY! mauser
FYI - Saw an 8-rd for sale at January gun show in Lakeland, FL for $85. As I recall the dealer also had a 20-rd for $150. There's an E1 Model at online auction right now with an ALMOST $600 starter bid on it. Saw an A7 sell online a few months ago for almost $700.
Thanks to another Ontario CGN poster, I have the 1970-'71 S.I.R. catalog so I can share some Gevarm (and other guns) info with you other collectors/shooters. Thanks again, Bob.
For your amusement and amazement, below is a picture of the entire SIR page of Gevarm/Gevelot stuff. (NOTE: the A6 sounds like the E1 action. My A7 HAS a firing pin, etc., and fires on a CLOSED bolt. ENJOY! mauser
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JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
yep you just remove the bolt and move the follower from the front of the recoil spring ( inside the bolt) to the rear of the spring. This reduces the bolt mass and allows it to cycle with lighter loads. very ingenious system .
.Ahead Of It's Time?
I recall MANY years ago some gun writer for one of the major gun mags remarked that the Gevarm E1 he was testing was, "ahead of its time."
Can you think of any gun TODAY that can make the same claims the little E1 could? Almost instant takedown; no fireing pin to break; DOUBLE ignition on rimfire; adjustable for SV AND HV loads; etc., etc.. I love 'em. mauser
I recall MANY years ago some gun writer for one of the major gun mags remarked that the Gevarm E1 he was testing was, "ahead of its time."
Can you think of any gun TODAY that can make the same claims the little E1 could? Almost instant takedown; no fireing pin to break; DOUBLE ignition on rimfire; adjustable for SV AND HV loads; etc., etc.. I love 'em. mauser
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lmao my dad has two E1's (1 was for him and 1 was for his brother) that his grandfather gave to him and each of them has a 20 round factory and a 8 round factory mag
More Info Needed
With the LARGE number of requests for Gevarm mags (both sizes) that I've seen over the past few years, I find it unbelievable that this manufacturer has not made their product more widely available.
Usually a manufacturer wants as wide a distribution of their products as possible. I cannot understand the seeming secrecy surrounding the mags discussed here.
Judging from the reviews written here, these mags were a very good find. If they're so successful, why hasn't there been a second purchase arranged? Have I overlooked something here? mauser
With the LARGE number of requests for Gevarm mags (both sizes) that I've seen over the past few years, I find it unbelievable that this manufacturer has not made their product more widely available.
Usually a manufacturer wants as wide a distribution of their products as possible. I cannot understand the seeming secrecy surrounding the mags discussed here.
Judging from the reviews written here, these mags were a very good find. If they're so successful, why hasn't there been a second purchase arranged? Have I overlooked something here? mauser
