Gladius International!

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Hi everyone, I had purchased a range day at the Hamilton location, super excited to participate on Wednesday June 1. Early Tuesday morning received an email saying that future range days were cancelled, with no firm dates set for a makeup. Has anyone any info on Gladius, reliability et all? Right now they are sitting with my cash and no response of a refund.
 
Don't pay them.

Well sort of too late now but you've learned your lesson.

He's just a mall ninja who thinks he can teach people about tacticool situations.

ZERO credibility.

Good to see that he stopped offering his bull####.
 
A friend of mine was trying to get me to buy a ticket to go there, he was very exited so I felt bad when I had to tell him what I heard in that last gladius thread. I hope he didn't lose his money too, sorry you got screwed. If you get your money back I hear one shot tactical puts on some good courses.
 
Hi
Did gladius state why the have cancelled thier days?
I bought their deal (even though i knew he was bs, the price when you consider ammo cost seemed like a decent deal). Just bought it so i could try out the M4 and vz58 to see which i liked better. Also bought a second as a gift for a friend since he got engaged.
Would like to hear if this is a permanent cancellation or just temporary. I emailed them and havent gotten a response yet.
 
Hi
Did gladius state why the have cancelled thier days?
I bought their deal (even though i knew he was bs, the price when you consider ammo cost seemed like a decent deal). Just bought it so i could try out the M4 and vz58 to see which i liked better. Also bought a second as a gift for a friend since he got engaged.
Would like to hear if this is a permanent cancellation or just temporary. I emailed them and havent gotten a response yet.

Seems like they're building their own range with your money, and according to DealTicker CSR your voucher will be extended from 2 to 5 years:

E-mail from Gladius:
***
Dear Customers

Gladius International regrets to inform all of you that we must suspend
operations temporarily until our new range can be built. The agreement we
had with the previous range was terminated suddenly and as a result we are
working to construct our new range as quickly as possible.
Gladius will honour its commitment to deal ticker and all of the persons who
signed up. It will however take us several months to get the range
operational and I apologize for this delay.
Once the range is operational, we will reschedule and reset the reservations
page. Please understand, this kind of deal is new to Ontario and these
events were unforeseen by us. We are doing our best to satisfy all the
person who signed up for this range day experience.

Gladius International
***

I personally think that if Gladius didn't went under already, they will: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/gladius-international-1050401/

I would fax to DealTicker asap and request a refund.
 
If he's not going to refund your money, why not ask for the equivalent value at cqb paintball? Take some buddies? At least its not a total loss on your part then?

FYI:

gladius international is run by a paintball field owner that only got his pal this year and took a shooting course... I wouldnt waste your money, the guy is a complete f**king joke..
 
http://www.moneyville.ca/blog/post/1014434--firing-range-coupon-deal-backfired-on-buyers?bn=1

Firing range coupon deal backfired on buyers

Shannon Haskell bought three discount vouchers at DealTicker for $69 apiece, offering a session at a shooting range run by Gladius International Protection Services.

The company suspended operations before she could attend. Now she can't get a refund.

Group buying can offer great bargains. That's why it's growing quickly. But customers get burned when merchants renege on their commitments.

I've written about The Butchers, a Toronto store that sold a record number of vouchers and couldn't handle the traffic. It narrowed the redemption window to a three-hour slot, but that wasn't enough. Now it has stopped accepting coupons while renovating and adding new refrigerators.

"These online vouchers are a completely new form of marketing that we did not know how to use properly and it got us into a bit of uncharted territory," owner Marlon Pather admitted.

"We want everyone to know that we honestly made a mistake by not running these promotions properly, but we also want you to know that we are doing our absolute best to make up for this misjudgment."

Promising to honour vouchers again in the future, he told people to check back for updates on when the store opened again.

To me, that's outrageous. I bought a $100 voucher from The Butchers to test the concept. And while it's good for a year (until May 2012), I don't know when -- and if -- I'll be able to use it.

Back to Shannon Haskell, who booked a reservation at the shooting range for later this summer. Here's what she was told in an email:

"Gladius International regrets to inform all of you that we must suspend operations temporarily until our new range can be built.

"Gladius will honour its commitment to DealTicker and all of the persons who signed up. It will, however, take us several months to get the range operational and I apologize for the delay.

"Please understand, this kind of deal is new to Ontario and these events were unforeseen by us. We are doing our best to satisfy all the persons who signed up for this range day experience."

Sound familiar? Gladius, too, has taken in thousands of dollars through selling vouchers for services that can't be fulfilled. It wants people to be patient while it enjoys the use of their money.

Haskell's coupon was good for two years (until March 2013), so her complaints were brushed off.

"The deal did state NO REFUNDS," she said, sending me a copy of the voucher. "But I assumed that if the deal didn't actually exist and customers couldn't redeem their coupons, DealTicker would reconsider their terms. Apparently not."

The DealTicker disappointment is discussed here and The Butchers bombshell is bemoaned here. The savvy shoppers at RedFlagDeals are usually ahead of the curve on corporate mistakes.

I think you have to be ultra-cautious about putting down money with a company you don't know, since it can pull the same stunts you're seeing here.

As for the deal websites, find out their refund policy in advance. And don't assume, as Haskell did, that a no-refund rule will change if a coupon can't be redeemed right away.

The longer a voucher lasts, the longer you may sit and stew about giving your money to finance someone else's shaky business.
 
I was at Silverdale range (where Gladius brought it's clients) and encountered a crew from livefire.ca

They offer a similar service (aimed at the film industry) but don't have pretensions about being PMCs or some kind of high speed training school. In fact at least one of their instructors was ex military but not boastful about it.
 
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