Glass bedding a .22???
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Both my Ruger 10-22 and CZ 452 are bedded. Not sure about any improvements in accuracy but when I disassemble them, they go back together exactly the same.
You are also removing doubt when you bed/fit them. That's my take on it anyways.
You are also removing doubt when you bed/fit them. That's my take on it anyways.
Bolt action rifles could benefit from being properly bedded. Competition shooters always bed theirs.
Poor bedding doesn't show up so fast in a 22, because it takes so long for the barrel to warm compared to a center fire.
But, to be accurate, it should be bedded.
Poor bedding doesn't show up so fast in a 22, because it takes so long for the barrel to warm compared to a center fire.
But, to be accurate, it should be bedded.
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Calvin (cycbb486) wrote a good article on bedding a CZ 452. I want to do mine when I get a chance. Too many projects on the go. Anyways, I am very happy with my groups right now so I don't know if I want to change anything, even tho bedding shouldn't make it worse.
I had the page bookmarked but it isn't working now...
Maybe he will chime in.
I had the page bookmarked but it isn't working now...
Maybe he will chime in.
Improving .22 accuracy
In a lot of the more inexpensive .22 rifles, there is only one screw to hold the action into the stock.
I have found that drilling and tapping for a second action screw (similar to big game rifles) will do a lot more for the accuracy than a simple glass bedding.
Of course, you could glass bed and free float the barrel after you put this second action screw in. Some rifles respond to opening the barrel channel, and some do not.
A good trigger system is essential, preferably one that is adjustable.
There is probably a long list somewhere of things people have tried, but expense is the factor. You can not compare a Cooey with a CZ, and the price reflects it. I still have my old Mossberg 44 US that I started target shooting with back in the 50's, and I did all right in competition with it. But, it certainly does not compare with my Kimber 82G.
Another factor is the use for the rifle....general hunting or plinking is not like shooting Benchrest or Olympic targets. What level of accuracy do you need and are willing to spend the time and money to get?
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In a lot of the more inexpensive .22 rifles, there is only one screw to hold the action into the stock.
I have found that drilling and tapping for a second action screw (similar to big game rifles) will do a lot more for the accuracy than a simple glass bedding.
Of course, you could glass bed and free float the barrel after you put this second action screw in. Some rifles respond to opening the barrel channel, and some do not.
A good trigger system is essential, preferably one that is adjustable.
There is probably a long list somewhere of things people have tried, but expense is the factor. You can not compare a Cooey with a CZ, and the price reflects it. I still have my old Mossberg 44 US that I started target shooting with back in the 50's, and I did all right in competition with it. But, it certainly does not compare with my Kimber 82G.
Another factor is the use for the rifle....general hunting or plinking is not like shooting Benchrest or Olympic targets. What level of accuracy do you need and are willing to spend the time and money to get?
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The second screw sure makes big difference, I did that at some point to. First I tried hose clamp and when I saw the difference I installed the second screw. In regards to glass bedding - cheap 22's will benefit much better from improvement in barrel-action joint or installing catelevered scope mount that becomes part of a barrel IMHO. Or glass bed your barrel and free-float the action if you are planning on using open sights. Or forget the free-floating your barrel if barrel-action joint is weak, find some sweet spot for a litle bit of pressure, it works, although zero will never be the same from day to day.
Lets just say - quality 22's improvement in accuracy with glass bedding may never show, and with cheap 22's there is a lot more involved.
Lets just say - quality 22's improvement in accuracy with glass bedding may never show, and with cheap 22's there is a lot more involved.
The small bore rifle shooting in the 50s was usually all position shooting. That is, the rifle was hand held, in one of the standard shooting positions. I would say in what I saw in one club I was in, there may have been as many Mossbergs as all other types combined!
To me, the most important features for that type of shooting, is a rifle with a good trigger and one that is a bit heavy on the front. Of course, you need micrometer adjusted aperature sights. I shot for a while with the Calgary Club, which had shooters among the very top in Canada. I didn't see any Mossbergs there, but quite a few had Model 69 Winchesters for sporting type and either Winchester 52 or BSA Martini type in the match rifle grades.
Glad to hear that you shot back in what I call the glory days of shooting.
