glock 17 - explain the trigger to me, someone...

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Hi all,

I keep on hearing about various glock trigger configs/options/parts/etc, the "3.5lb disconnector" is the only one which comes to mind at the moment, but I know there's more...

At the moment I have my G17 setup for Production, I'm guessing about a 5.5lb trigger? If I wanted to have a configuration for the black badge course, basically a much lighter trigger, what would I need to get/do? How light can you go with a G17 trigger?

Thanks
 
You can only go to 5 lbs minimum for production in your G17...

By "Configuration" do you mean:


a. I want my Production G17 to have less than a 5lb trigger pull? ...
b. I want my G17 to have a lighter than 5lb trigger pull knowing that I will not use it for Production...
c. I can WOW the students with a blazing display of trigger work??
d. I do want to get a blister on my trigger finger (yes I am that manly)

If you want a much lighter trigger you can get a complete "2 lb,3.5 lb, or 4.5 lb drop in trigger kits"
 
You need to have ALL Glock parts, and still have a minimum trigger pull above 5-pounds; in my 17, a factory 3.5-pound connector gave me a 5.5-pound actual trigger pull. It's possible to go lighter, but usually not without using non-Glock parts (a Cominolli trigger in my 22 gave a 3.5-pound pull).
 
You can polish up all of the trigger parts and firing pin safety etc this will smoothen out the trigger pull. I don't know if i changes the force necessary to trip the trigger but it will give it a better feel.
 
Bartledan said:
He's not worried about being division legal, he's building a loaner gun with as nice a trigger as he can manage.

Try this, maybe: https://www.triggerkit.com/splashPage.hg

Other than that, you're stuck with a 3.5 pound connector, which is good for about 5.5 lbs. Maybe try a reduced power striker spring, too?


Or... go to the gym and work on that trigger finger!
:p
 
Omen go to the www.brianenos.com. They have a write up on glock triggers that will tell you more than you will want to know.Raph Satto? i think that how you spell his name sell a trigger kit that drops into you glock and gives you a 2lb triger. I costs about $80.If you want to return to your old trigger just slip out Ralphs and put your own back in. Ray.
 
omen, learn how to shoot a Glock well, then alter the trigger if you have to. The first shot pull the trigger straight through but only let the trigger go forward until you feel/hear a click. After this, continue to only let the trigger reset and not travel all the way forward. This method will work wonders with your Glock. Regards, Richard:D
 
OK..

GUYS. Seriously. Deep breath, then read slowly and carefully: He wants to LOAN it to OTHER PEOPLE to use in THEIR Black Badge course. People who DON'T own a glock... or he wouldn't be LOANING them one.

A glock is a perfect black badge loaner pistol, except it has a crappy trigger. It's reliable, has a point and click interface, and easy to care for. Why not let these new people do the BB course with an easy trigger?

Omen is a GM in production. I'm pretty sure his trigger finger has lots of muscles, and he's reasonable good, trigger technique wise.
 
My Not-IPSC-Production-Legal Glock 22 weighs in around 4 lbs.
It's got the ghost rocket disconnector, the $.25 trigger (polish) job and some general working in. (I bought it used about 12 years ago)
I'm sure a good glock pistolsmith could go lighter too.
 
omen said:
Hi all,

I keep on hearing about various glock trigger configs/options/parts/etc, the "3.5lb disconnector" is the only one which comes to mind at the moment, but I know there's more...

At the moment I have my G17 setup for Production, I'm guessing about a 5.5lb trigger? If I wanted to have a configuration for the black badge course, basically a much lighter trigger, what would I need to get/do? How light can you go with a G17 trigger?

Thanks


It's a connector and with the Ghost Labratories one you will still pull over 5 lbs as long as you haven't polished anything inside. The big benefit is your pull will break crisper. I have them in both my 17 and 22.
 
I want to post a warning. The first time I shot my Glock 17 with a Lone Wolf 3.5# trigger I double tapped it. I am an experienced shooter but this got my attention in a hurry. I am sorry I ordered the trigger before I learned about not letting the trigger rebound all the way after the first shot. Regards, Richard:redface:
 
Bartledan said:
GUYS. Seriously. Deep breath, then read slowly and carefully: He wants to LOAN it to OTHER PEOPLE to use in THEIR Black Badge course. People who DON'T own a glock... or he wouldn't be LOANING them one.

hehe, isn't it funny, how people read 1 or maybe 2 words of a post, and start replying to what they imagine the whole msgs is about... Bartledan saw the point right away (I guess he actually READ the question and the msg)... :rolleyes:

Does anyone have any comments (good or bad) about the triggerkit product? it looks promising

Thanks..
 
IMO if the goal is to provide a good gun for black badge coarse , do nothing to it except some polishing to smooth it out .
The black badge coarse is a safety coarse . If you have to loan a gun to someone taking this coarse then they obviously have no experience . They would never no the difference unless you tell them .
To me the safer route is the best route , and thats leaving it stock .
 
Omen, maybe just leave it as is? Even most women have no trouble with a base Glock. Sides if you have alot of rounds through it its gotta be lower than 5.5 . I had a 17 for about decade and now my buddy has it, its got alot of rounds through it, the trigger is very soft. I think newbies biggest issue wont be the pull but getting use to the middle part of the trigger with the trigger safety. Still its gotta be one of the better choices for new shooters. Low bore axis, no external controls, good balance etc.
 
omen said:
hehe, isn't it funny, how people read 1 or maybe 2 words of a post, and start replying to what they imagine the whole msgs is about... Bartledan saw the point right away (I guess he actually READ the question and the msg)... :rolleyes:

Does anyone have any comments (good or bad) about the triggerkit product? it looks promising

Thanks..

Q? Why would you set up a Glock with a lighter trigger pull and allowed for the Production Division.. espesially for a new shooter... it would give them a false sense of what the Glock 17 is... would it be responsible to let a new shooter use a much lighter trigger... you are removing some of the safety factor... the 5 lb Safe Action Trigger. Why teach them this... ask yourself is this is the responsible thing to do, should they be using that Glock?

I understand why you want to, and I appauld your intentions but...

Oh, I READ the question, I just could not beleive what you ARE suggesting :rolleyes:
 
Popurhedoff said:
Q? Why would you set up a Glock with a lighter trigger pull and allowed for the Production Division.. espesially for a new shooter... it would give them a false sense of what the Glock 17 is... would it be responsible to let a new shooter use a much lighter trigger... you are removing some of the safety factor... the 5 lb Safe Action Trigger. Why teach them this... ask yourself is this is the responsible thing to do, should they be using that Glock?

I understand why you want to, and I appauld your intentions but...

Oh, I READ the question, I just could not beleive what you ARE suggesting :rolleyes:

Thank you Pop, for that variation on "Uh, I meant to do that!"

:)

Silly bugger!
 
Firstly, some readers may not know Omen, but I didn't read in his original post that the gun was going to be LENT to someone, so I can understand that some may have thought he was going to use it for his BB.

Omen, I just weighed my trigger on my G17 and it nearly hit 7 pounds. I mention this because if your 5.5 pound trigger guess is off, and the actual pull is 6-7 pounds, maybe you only need to reduce it to 5-5.5 pounds. Hope this is helpful.
 
Omen...Bartledan has a nice trigger on his...why not have him post the details...I'm pretty sure it was swapping out parts...but I'm not sure. It even passed the trigger pull at the Triangle :p

Mine is 5.3 lbs...just using the stock parts but they were polished...it's a managable trigger...but it did take some getting used to. :redface:

I tried one at the RA center (JR's) with the after market parts...(just dry firing it at the safety table) It's a Glock 35 that he uses in Standard. I think it was the NY trigger set...it was nice...but much lighter that I was expecting. If I had just drawn and fired at a target...without trying the trigger in advance...I probably would have over prepped. Not because it's lighter that I'm used to (with the S_I's) but just because it was a Glock with a nice trigger...and I was not expecting it. :eek: :rolleyes: :cool:
 
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