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Well was back to my camp on Friday night to go duck huntin. Mouse #### everywhere, good thing I brought my shop vac with a bag in it. Set a bunch of traps and got 5 while we were sitting there having some refreshments on Friday night. Set a bunch of traps before we left, went back yesterday to hunt some birds and there were 9 mice in my traps. Not real fond of the idea of getting Hunta virus etc. Who has an idea for a better mouse trap?

Andy
 
Careful with mouse droppings... Here is some clean-up info for the mouse droppings... Your right, Hantavirus is serious...

The biggest risk of contracting Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) occurs through inhaling air contaminated with virus that becomes aerosolized after droppings are disturbed (by sweeping up, for instance)

Cheers
Jay

INDEPTH: HEALTH
Hantavirus – frequently asked questions

CBC News Online | June 21, 2006


Deer mouse, Peromyscus maniculatus, a hantavirus carrier. (courtesy CDC)The death of a 14-year-old boy from Okanagan, B.C., from hantavirus in May 2005 once again raised the profile of this rare but deadly viral disease. Canada’s first human hantavirus case was reported in British Columbia in 1994, but subsequent research suggests that the first case actually took place in Alberta five years earlier.
About 61 cases have been reported in Canada, with at least 20 deaths. Except for a single case in Quebec, all of the cases have occurred in the four western provinces. But infected mice have been found in the Yukon and in every province except Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, suggesting that the potential exists for human hantavirus cases to emerge in other parts of the country.

What is hantavirus?

QUICK FACTS:

Percentage of Canadian HPS cases that occur on farms:
25 per cent
Canadian province with most cases of HPS:
Alberta (at least 30 cases)

Number of known hantavirus genotypes in Canada:
2 (Sin Nombre and Prospect Hill)

Year HPS became a nationally reportable disease in Canada:
2000

Source: Public Health Agency of Canada

Hantavirus is a viral disease carried by wild rodents – especially deer mice, which in Canada are the principal animal reservoirs of the virus. The mice themselves don’t appear to get sick from the virus. But if they are infected, they excrete the virus in their feces, urine and saliva. For humans, the biggest risk of contracting Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) occurs through inhaling air contaminated with virus that becomes aerosolized after droppings are disturbed (by sweeping up, for instance). The virus remains viable for two or three days at room temperature.

What does a deer mouse look like?

The deer mouse is primarily a rural creature. It is grayish to light brown on top, with a white belly. It has large ears and a furry tail and has eyes that appear to “bug out.” The typical city-swelling house mouse, which is not a carrier of hantavirus, is usually entirely gray or light brown (no white on the belly).

What are the symptoms of HPS?

Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome is not a common illness. There were no cases at all in Canada in all of 2004; the country typically reports just three cases a year. Furthermore, most people who are exposed to the virus do not fall ill. But if HPS is contracted, it can be a killer. Mortality estimates in Canada and United States range from 33 per cent to 50 per cent.

"It's not always fatal," said Dr. Robin Lindsay, with the national microbiology lab in Winnipeg. "Of the 61 human cases we've had so far, we're looking at a 36 per cent mortality rate. Unfortunately, it can have a high mortality rate, but people do survive exposure."

The first symptoms typically occur one to three weeks after exposure to infected mice and their droppings. It begins as a flu-like illness. Fever, muscle pains and fatigue progress within a few days to coughing and shortness of breath. Lungs fill with fluid and a respirator is often needed. For those who survive, recovery can take weeks or months. There is no vaccine.

How do I avoid contracting HPS?

Avoiding hantavirus is as simple as avoiding infected mice and their droppings. Unfortunately, that is not entirely possible for many farmers, ranchers, exterminators, cottagers or campers. For those who are at increased risk, there are some basic precautions to take. Before entering a building that may be contaminated (such as when opening up the cottage in the spring), the building should be aired out for at least an hour, with you on the outside. Most hantavirus cases occur in May, according to Lindsay, which may have to do with spring cleaning.

Avoid sweeping up or vacuuming mouse droppings, which can inject viral particles into the air. Instead, don a pair of rubber gloves and wet the material with bleach or similar disinfectant. Use a damp cloth to clean up the area and then spray with more disinfectant. Spray any dead mice with disinfectant and double-bag them for disposal. Disinfect, or better still, throw out the rubber gloves. Items that can’t be disinfected can be rendered safe by exposing them to sunlight for a few hours. Ultraviolet rays kill hantavirus.

People who regularly work in rodent-infested areas would be well advised to wear HEPA-filter face masks.

Can pets get hantavirus?

The good news here is that Fido and Fluffy appear to be immune to hantavirus. Dogs and cats can’t catch the virus and then bring it home to you (even if an infected mouse is eaten). Having said that, it should be noted that if your pets catch and bring home an infected deer mouse as a present, then you could be at risk. When handling any rodent remains, rubber gloves and liberal use of disinfectant are mandatory.

Can hantavirus be spread from person to person?

There are no known human cases of HPS being contracted from another person in North America. The May 7, 2005, hantavirus death of a woman from Hobbema, Alta., attracted added attention because two other family members also contracted the disease. But authorities doubt that the transmission was from one family member to the others; they note that the family had been cleaning out the woman’s garage, which was contaminated with mouse droppings.

What if I think I may have been exposed to hantavirus?

It can’t be emphasized enough that Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome is a rare illness and the risk of contracting it is very low. Cottagers are at far greater risk of dying in an accident on their way to the cabin than from hantavirus. But simple prudence demands that if you’ve been in an area that’s been contaminated with mouse droppings and you later develop flu-like symptoms or have trouble breathing, you should seek medical attention immediately.
 
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Get a 5 gallon plastic pail with a tight fitting lid and and half fill it with water, cut a six inch circular hole in the top of the lid. Take the plastic circle that you cut out and trim it a little bit smaller than the hole in the lid. put a couple of holes in it and drive a straight length of wire coat hanger eight inches long through the middle of the plastic cut out. Use a couple of staples or brackets on the lid and position so that the plastic cut out is hinged and balanced level with the lid. Put some peanut butter or other bait in the middle of the cut out which now acts like a trap door.
Next put a piece of 2X4 or something to act as a ramp and put it from the floor to the top of the pail. Mouse runs up the ramp and steps on the trap door it swivels and dumps him in the water... the trap door swings back into the balanced position ready for the next victim.
BOBS YOUR UNCLE:cool:
 
BIGREDD said:
Get a 5 gallon plastic pail with a tight fitting lid and and half fill it with water, cut a six inch circular hole in the top of the lid. Take the plastic circle that you cut out and trim it a little bit smaller than the hole in the lid. put a couple of holes in it and drive a straight length of wire coat hanger eight inches long through the middle of the plastic cut out. Use a couple of staples or brackets on the lid and position so that the plastic cut out is hinged and balanced level with the lid. Put some peanut butter or other bait in the middle of the cut out which now acts like a trap door.
Next put a piece of 2X4 or something to act as a ramp and put it from the floor to the top of the pail. Mouse runs up the ramp and steps on the trap door it swivels and dumps him in the water... the trap door swings back into the balanced position ready for the next victim.
BOBS YOUR UNCLE:cool:

:runaway: to complicated for me :D

Take a 5 gallon pail, put a few inches of anti-freeze in the bottom (keeps down the smell), smear peanut butter down 3" or so from the top, & place it where they can climb to the rim! The edge of a stairway works good, or you can lay a 2x4 from the floor up to the rim. Garrenteed they will climb up fall in trying to get the peanut butter:)
Our camp has been mouse free for years now :)
Used to come back & find 30-50 mice in it, now were lucky to get one :)
We also place one of these pails outside the camp in a likely spot...woodshed, toilet..etc
 
errr.... place poisoned bait all over the place. Go away, come back and find dead mice.
Clean up the mess and you are done.
Make sure to clean up real well before you leave. bread crumbs etc. will attract mice and sh!t.
I wash the floors in the cottage with bleach before I leave.
 
Our old camp used a 5 gallon bucket witha gallon of water in the bottom and a downward facing funnel on the top.

When they hit the funnel it was a one way trip.

Slugo, what's the difference between regular anitfreeze and plumbers?
 
Cleaning the place won't help much. Mickey likes to live inside when he can. Especially if there's not much human activity. Mickey can go through a hole that is very, very small to get in too.
The poisoned seed can help reduce the population. Cheap, low maintenance, but needs to be replenished regularly.
 
a slightly easier version of the 5 gallon pail trap is to run a string across the open pail top, put 2 holes in a tin can near the top of the tin can, cut out the tin can bottom, and run the string through the tin can across the open top. put peanut butter on the rim of the can. mice go on string, lick peanut butter, can becomes unbalenced, mouse falls, mouse drowns or (if you swing this way) used for target practice.

If you really really want a stupid way to kill mice, try the very unpopular step of gassing your camp.
 
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LOL I love the fact that everyone has a different version of the pail & PB trap!

I run a 1/4" dowel through a hole in the bottom and lid of a coffee can. Cut notches in either side of the rim of the pail to hold the dowel. Smear PB over the can, and rig a ramp for the mice to get to the PB. Mouse eats, can spins, mousey falls in water...

Or get some cats. They really are good for 2 things... eating mice and exercising dogs.
 
+1 on Silverado's 5-gallon trap, aka the "rolling can trap". I've seen many variants of this used with great success.

Another variation on the general pail trap theme is to use mayonaise instead of peanut butter, if the mice won't come for peanut butter, they will sure as hell come for mayo.
 
Hold on guys...your now adding open food to your campsite...methinks you are going to wake with Mr. bear sniffing your feet one morning. :eek: :D
 
that is a wise observation. better make the trap bearsized :)

on a more serious not, that makes it alot harder to kill the mice. that cat might just be your best bet.
 
Even a cat will have it's limits, it will get a couple, and then chow down on a few and have a nap.

A small Terrier dog on the other hand will go all night, but then again don't expect much sleep. :D
 
canadian hunter312 said:
normal antifreeze thats used in cars is very poisonous. plumbers antifreeze is used in RV's and campers water lines to prevent them from freezing and bursting;)

I knew that :rolleyes: Jesus the weekend can't come soon enough.:p
 
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