Going after coyotes 'dangerous game'

bronco_mudder said:
Do you know anything about the trap that guy is holding in that picture? Its jaws are lined so as to not inflict any damage to the animals leg. The all steel ones, as far as I know, are outlawed for trapping on dry land...meaning still ok for use on muskrats. Those rubber lined jaws or what ever the material actually is, because it doesn't get really stiff in the cold, won't hurt your pet. A person can stick there fingers in that trap and not feel any pain. The snap of the trap going off will startle you more than anything.:rolleyes: This isn't the stone age of trapping anymore.
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How do they dispatch the yote when they walk up on it? Fish bonker or .22?

LH
 
"...another tried a boneheaded alpo stunt?..." And blatantly illegal. The media thinks everything hunting or firearm related is dangerous. The insurance companies do not.
 
bronco_mudder said:
Do you know anything about the trap that guy is holding in that picture? Its jaws are lined so as to not inflict any damage to the animals leg. The all steel ones, as far as I know, are outlawed for trapping on dry land...meaning still ok for use on muskrats. Those rubber lined jaws or what ever the material actually is, because it doesn't get really stiff in the cold, won't hurt your pet. A person can stick there fingers in that trap and not feel any pain. The snap of the trap going off will startle you more than anything.:rolleyes: This isn't the stone age of trapping anymore.
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Fair enough, as long as the people using them are responsible enough to check them and not forget about them.
 
thebuckhunter said:
44fordy:

Check the regs. I'm in WMU 65 and use a .223 and my hunting partner uses a .243. There is shotgun only for deer for 2 weeks and a ML week. Coyotes are open all year with no calibre restrictions other than during the open season for deer. ENJOY!!!

-Jason
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GTFO here!!!

SOO.....I can use anything then? Does that include my SKS, .308 and 84mm anti-tank?

Nevermind the anti tank.... I'm saving it for a special occasion. ;)
 
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...4-3d5283beb05e

We should deter coyotes, not kill them

The Ottawa Citizen


Monday, January 21, 2008


Re: Going after coyotes 'dangerous game,' Jan. 18.

People move to rural areas to enjoy the wildlife and open spaces and to live in harmony with nature. So why are Greely area residents so adamant about killing coyotes when these wild creatures are just doing what is natural?

While I can sympathize with the few people who lost pets, I urge them to take precautions. It is wrong that we penalize coyotes who are seeking food sources. I suspect that the coyote's natural food sources of voles, rabbits, squirrels, mice or weakened deer were unavailable to them or difficult to hunt with the heavy snowfalls in December. A starving coyote would see unattended cats and dogs as looking pretty tasty and easy to catch. They are animals of opportunity.

Professional hunters have been hired to trap and destroy the coyotes -- it's apparently illegal to trap and relocate a coyote. I'm not sure I understand the logic of that. Wouldn't it be simpler for everyone in the area to follow the precautions outlined at the Greely community meeting in early January -- do not leave pets or small children unattended, store your garbage in a shed, keep your dog on a leash when walking them and carry a stick.

The person who left poisoned dog food out (which an unattended neighbour's dog ate) should be fined for this reckless, irresponsible and cruel behaviour.

While destroying the coyotes in the Greely area might make the residents feel better in the short term, I would be interested to hear what they have to say about the increase in mouse, rat, rabbit and deer populations in their area next spring. When humans are inconvenienced by nature, they destroy what's irritating them instead of investing some time and effort in a long-term positive outcome. Coyotes and other wildlife are in a survival game.

Sharon Wolfe,

Ottawa

© The Ottawa Citizen 2008
 
riden said:
Coyote seal??? Can you explain that, how much??
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$10.

In WMUs 1A, 1C, 1D, 2-42, 46-50 and 53-58 the following
regulations apply:
• The wolf/coyote hunting and trapping season is
closed from April 1 to September 14.
• You may only hunt wolves and coyotes under the
authority of your small game licence accompanied
by a wolf/coyote game seal purchased from
ServiceOntario. You can purchase a maximum of two
wolf/coyote game seals per calendar year.
• Party hunting of these animals is not permitted.
• You are required to immediately attach your wolf/
coyote game seal to the wolf/coyote you have killed.
• You must complete and mail a mandatory
questionnaire on your wolf/coyote hunting activity
and harvest by January 15 of the year following
the hunt. You must submit the questionnaire even
if you bought a seal but did not hunt. Mandatory
questionnaires will be mailed to hunters by
MNR in December. Hunters should mail their
completed questionnaire to: MNR, Big Game
Harvest Assessment Program, 1350 High Falls Road,
Bracebridge, ON P1L 1W9.
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Lionhill said:
Not a case of preference - it was a request for information as I have never trapped. How do YOU do it? It's not a slag against trappers, I'm just trying to get educated on the subject.

LH
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Most would use a rimfire, be it 22, 22 mag, 17 hmr. Something along those lines...to do the least amount of damage to the hide as possible. I've never heard of anybody bashing a coyote on the head to kill it. If you've ever walked up to a coyote in a trap you wouldn't want to get close enough for that, and I don't agree with killing any animal that way. They may not be that big, but they'll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. Pretty intimidating.
 
44fordy said:
GTFO here!!!

SOO.....I can use anything then? Does that include my SKS, .308 and 84mm anti-tank?

Nevermind the anti tank.... I'm saving it for a special occasion. ;)
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Yupperrs. Get at 'em! The local game warden told me the only thing to remember is that I'm responsible until the bullet comes to a complete stop. (ya think?). You're good to go. If you need a hand, I'd be glad to help you out. ;) Also, coyotes can be hunted with only a small game licence in WMU65 IIRC, a coyote seal or tag is required only when you get north of the French and Mattawa Rivers. I could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure. Good luck!

-Jason
 
faswagon said:
Absolutely! Nail on the head. I compare a leg trap to a land mine, you have no discretion as to who or what may step on it, not a responsible or humane device
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Why is it that newbies always insist on showing their ass?:rolleyes:

FYI: the trap pictured is 100% AIHTS compliant. (Agreement on International Humane Trapping Standards) It is designed to minimize any pain/discomfort the trapped animal may feel, while preserving the fur as well.

If a domestic dog is caught, it can be freed with minimal damage, i.e., possibly bruised paw. As for Foxes, Coyotes...the trap holds the animal until a trapper can walk up to it and put a .22 Short straight down into its skull. Instant brain death, minimal pelt damage and the .22 Short won't exit the skull, so no worries about a stray bullet.

Comparing that trap to a land mine and saying the use is inhumane or irresponsible is fcuking idiotic!:mad:
 
X-man said:
Comparing that trap to a land mine and saying the use is inhumane or irresponsible is fcuking idiotic!:mad:
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Take it easy chief, I'm sorry I didn't realize that was a "certified, humane" trap. But still, it's only humane if someone is monitoring the trap so they can immediately kill the animal they intended to capture, or release an "accident".
 
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