Going for RPAL, wondering about ATT's & storage of restricteds..

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Well I'm planning on getting my RPAL (only got PAL atm), and there's a small range near my mother's condo which I'd want to join for some target shooting.

I'd be more-or-less in the GTA so any restricted being purchased would go there. My questions are regarding having a firearm at another person's residence (while being there of course).

If I'm going to be staying at her place, can I bring it with me? If I can, to my understanding I'd need a temporary ATT to bring it there (since long-term ones are just for going to and back from the range). Of course it would be safely and legally stored while there. Would it be an issue because it's not in my permanent residence?

And anything else I should know or look into? Not too knowledgeable in the area of restricted's at the time being. Never used any handguns to date. The PAL and hunting courses were fairly straight forward, just read the books to make sure knew everything needed to know.


Wasn't able to find anything about this on the RCMP site or link below, unless wasn't looking properly and/or missed it..
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/index.html
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-206/index.html
 
I can see an exception being made on the ATT here, although perhaps I'm just optimistic. Anyone who owns more than one property would need an ATT to cover them in this scenario. I suspect you could request ATT's for both; One covering from home to range, the other from lodging to range. You will be responsible to ensure safe storage at both locations of course.

It's my understanding that the club applies for the ATT on your behalf. I'd suggest dropping in and asking there. Don't call... clubs are busy can you're likely going to need to talk to the secretary directly. But ya, explain it just as above; You live at 2 different places each week and need 2 ATT's to cover you to each. They may ask for specific dates at each location so be ready with those.
 
Thanks for the help so far. I think I should've also mentioned that her place is 2h~ or so away from where I usually reside (plus the range is about literally a 1 minute drive from it), which is why it would be quite convenient to do so. :redface:

I don't really see why it would be an issue, but going by the laws we have, it wouldn't surprise me.

Richard Cranium said:
Take the course and you'll be reasonably well educated.

But in short, no you cant take your restricted to a friends residence unless you're pretty much on your way or coming home from the range.

Cheers.
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So what if I go straight to the range, then when done go to her place and stay there. No stops in between, direct to range, and then direct to residence. That would make it okay since it's the whole to-and-from? And as Noltz mentioned if had ATTs for both(although if could get it then I'd assume it's fine lol).


Noltz said:
I can see an exception being made on the ATT here, although perhaps I'm just optimistic. Anyone who owns more than one property would need an ATT to cover them in this scenario. I suspect you could request ATT's for both; One covering from home to range, the other from lodging to range. You will be responsible to ensure safe storage at both locations of course.

It's my understanding that the club applies for the ATT on your behalf. I'd suggest dropping in and asking there. Don't call... clubs are busy can you're likely going to need to talk to the secretary directly. But ya, explain it just as above; You live at 2 different places each week and need 2 ATT's to cover you to each. They may ask for specific dates at each location so be ready with those.
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Will do, might be up there next weekend so could stop by the club to ask for some information. And yea, can only hope. Storage there won't be an issue, and haven't been to that range yet, so will look into that, but of course still need the RPAL. Just need some insight before hand.

Just wondering if would be an issue because it's not technically my property, although if listed as part-time residence or something? (I'm there here and there.. and might be working there for a little bit, but looking into it more of for after that). Anyone experienced a similar situation? Or can send me a link to regulations that are a bit more specific on the issue to be more certain.
 
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/page-6.html#h-11

Under sections 17 & 19 of the firearms act, I'd assume it could be fine.

17. Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of the registration certificate for which is an individual, may be possessed only at the dwelling-house of the individual, as recorded in the Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized by a chief firearms officer.
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Just depends if they issue it or not still, so how they decide to interpret it.

19. (1) An individual who holds a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms or restricted firearms may be authorized to transport a particular prohibited firearm or restricted firearm between two or more specified places for any good and sufficient reason, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing,

(a) for use in target practice, or a target shooting competition, under specified conditions or under the auspices of a shooting club or shooting range that is approved under section 29;

(b) if the individual
(i) changes residence,
(iii) wishes to transport the firearm for repair, storage, sale, exportation or appraisal, or
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Don't see the legal issue, seems good enough reason to me. Matters what they think though. :p
 
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