I still stand by my $600ish price. IMHO, the VZ-58S look way cooler than the CZ-858 with its enormously long barrel. Looks weird to me. Also, who's selling the VZ-58S's new right now? (See Supply Vs. Demand) Besides with the accessories Niceguy mentioned, it would easily fetch that price. There was one that sold for $550 with fewer goodies.