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- Okanagan Valley B.C.
Good at the Range
- Thread starter skwerl
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Ammo testing today. Lapua Biathlon Xtreme, Tenex, Midas + and R50. R50 really showing promise at 50m even with a wind with an average of 0.27" even with the flyer in the fourth group. The Biathlon ammo was quite good with a 5 group average of 0.33". All in all, a nice way to spend a warm October day.
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Sometimes a more moderately priced ammo can give good performance. Below are ten-shot groups at 100 yards with SK Rifle Match.
The left group was shot on October 5. It measures .656" center-to-center (with .21" deducted from the outside measurement). The middle group, from Oct. 6, measures .696" center-to-center. The tenth and last shot in the group was the one that shows on the left-most side of the group, which made it close to about .2" larger than it otherwise would have been. That was a little disappointing.
The group on the right was made on Oct. 7. It's .892" overall, while the nine best shots were .421"
With results such as those above, it would appear to show that SK Rifle Match is a very good ammo. But don't rush out to get SK RM, expecting similar results.
These were obtained with one lot out of the five different lots I recently tested. One other lot of SK RM produced some sub-1" groups but had a smaller percentage of sub-one-inch groups and larger overall average on all targets. The other three of the five lots were very disappointing.
The left group was shot on October 5. It measures .656" center-to-center (with .21" deducted from the outside measurement). The middle group, from Oct. 6, measures .696" center-to-center. The tenth and last shot in the group was the one that shows on the left-most side of the group, which made it close to about .2" larger than it otherwise would have been. That was a little disappointing.
The group on the right was made on Oct. 7. It's .892" overall, while the nine best shots were .421"
With results such as those above, it would appear to show that SK Rifle Match is a very good ammo. But don't rush out to get SK RM, expecting similar results.
These were obtained with one lot out of the five different lots I recently tested. One other lot of SK RM produced some sub-1" groups but had a smaller percentage of sub-one-inch groups and larger overall average on all targets. The other three of the five lots were very disappointing.
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Glenn's testing goes hand in hand with my experiences.
Four lots of the Remington Eley Match were tested. While I also tested for the BSA Martini, it was not used enough to warrant getting separate lots. We have since parted ways but now there are two Coopers to also test for.
While I test the entire box shooting five 10-shot groups then order my cases from that testing.
My mentor ordered as many as 10 boxes and did similar testing.
The tests are conducted without the tuner and it goes back on when the case is received.
Of these four lots, some of the tests were abandoned after three targets.
The lot selected had one group just over 1". My testing is done at 100 yards and the tuner was set at 50 yards.
I have not had a need to have two separate tuner settings for different ranges.
Glenn's testing goes hand in hand with my experiences.
Four lots of the Remington Eley Match were tested. While I also tested for the BSA Martini, it was not used enough to warrant getting separate lots. We have since parted ways but now there are two Coopers to also test for.
While I test the entire box shooting five 10-shot groups then order my cases from that testing.
My mentor ordered as many as 10 boxes and did similar testing.
The tests are conducted without the tuner and it goes back on when the case is received.
Of these four lots, some of the tests were abandoned after three targets.
The lot selected had one group just over 1". My testing is done at 100 yards and the tuner was set at 50 yards.
I have not had a need to have two separate tuner settings for different ranges.
At 75 I'm getting a little long in the tooth for 100yd/M shooting these days, and I refuse to shoot with a scope, but I can still manage pretty well at 50yd/M with aperture sights. Here's a set of targets I recently shot for a postal match I do each month. 1967 heavy-barreled Walther KKJ-T with match-grade aperture sights, Caldwell Junior front rest and homemade rear sandbag. Ammo was Lapua Flat Nose Basic. Cool, sunny, calm day, 13C.
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Old guys rule, well done!! Very nice shooting. I'm a little older but still like to shoot with aperture sights for kicks from time to time. It's always a bit of a surprise how well you can do with proper iron sights. It's something that a lot of the younger generation has lost unfortunately.
turbo_bird
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- Location
- Kamloops, BC
I have a rifle that I'm sure is capable of accuracy like that at 50 yards, but I can't do it with the peep sights. On a good day with good ammo and the right target, I can keep it around 1/4" for 5 rounds at 25 yards though. Last time I shot it I wasn't able to do much better than an inch at 50, but I also hadn't shot with peeps for about 5 or 6 years. I need to practice with it more. It's a Schultz and Larsen M61, and a joy to shoot.
Kristian
turbo_bird,
Any day I can keep 10 rds inside an inch at 50yds and score 100 is a good day for me. I have been out-shot by a Schultz and Larsen more than once, and it was sporting far less sophisticated "peeps" than my Walther. I am legally blind without my specs (bifocals), and have peripheral cataracts and posterior vitreous detachment in both eyes, so I have upgraded my "peep" sights accordingly. I use the original factory Walther rear micrometer sight with a Gehmann adjustable iris/6-colour filter ring stacked onto a device that replaces my specs and that can be adjusted for my astigmatism. The front sight is an M18 Annie Match 54 globe, with an adjustable iris and a 0.5 diopter eagle eye.
turbo_bird
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Kamloops, BC
I guess peep sights, or I guess more accurately globe sights, have come a long way since my rifle was considered state of the art. It would probably be from the 1960's as well. I really haven't shot it enough to get good with it, and should bring it with me every time I head to the range.
Kristian
dryfire shot five targets under 0.5 in the 50 yard challenge with target sights . . . way to go Andrew.
Went back and found the entry . . . #110.
Weather cooperated for a day at the range today
Rem 40X - Redfield apertures at 50metres - Eley Match EPS @ 1076 fps rated
Target and small group. The #3 group was shot with the front aperture nested in the middle of the 4 outer bulls.
#1 .500 - .221 = .279
#2 .683 - .221 = .462
#3 .641 - .221 = .420
#4 .492 - .221 = .271
#5 .696 - .221 = .475
Average .3814
Went back and found the entry . . . #110.
Weather cooperated for a day at the range today
Rem 40X - Redfield apertures at 50metres - Eley Match EPS @ 1076 fps rated
Target and small group. The #3 group was shot with the front aperture nested in the middle of the 4 outer bulls.
#1 .500 - .221 = .279
#2 .683 - .221 = .462
#3 .641 - .221 = .420
#4 .492 - .221 = .271
#5 .696 - .221 = .475
Average .3814
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