The SP-01 has a full dust cover and the 75B doesn't--the grip size is exactly the same
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Good first handgun?
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If you learn to shoot a double action revolver first, you can shoot anything. .357mag also shoots the more affordable .38 so you dont go bankrupt in the process. My first was a 686 Smith & Wesson; I love it. Some affordable alternates would be Taurus or Ruger.
My two cents
My two cents
Without an NY pistol permit you're scuppered.
Is this a NY thing then?
I had no problem shooting at store ranges in MI, PA, MA, etc., the latest being as recent as 5 years ago.Is this a NY thing then?
NY is the most restrictive state in the union. As far as I understand, people from out of state who are shooting in legitimate NRA recognized competitions or hunting (with a state hunting license), are the only exemptions under state law for being in possession of a handgun with out a state permit, unless of course you are federal or state law enforcement. Technically speaking if you just turn up and want to borrow a handgun you need a state permit.
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Learning on a .22 sounds like a good idea to get started but ive always been the type to say screw training wheels just get on the dam bike and learn to ride. Then again thats just me ANd with the money you save on training wheels you can buy ammo.... i mean tires.... yessss.... tires.
ANd with the money you save on training wheels you can buy ammo.... i mean tires.... yessss.... tires.Why even get a 22? Why not start with a BB gun? The reason - because, for me personally, I get zero pleasure/enjoyment from firing something it kiddy calibers. I started w a 9mm walther, and quickly after got a norn 1911 .45. I still concider myself a novice and can at least get 4-5' groups at 20m with the .45. Im happy with that, and can only get better. Im in no rush to become a top shot. As long as your having fun who cares what you shot. For me a 22 pistol aint fun.
Wow, clearly with 4-5' groups at 20m you certainly don't need any extended shooting practise, but not everbody is going to be as satisfied with that as you are (or as willing to publicly share that)...
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Unless you get your ammo for free 9mm is a better first gun than .45....22LR would be ideal. I started with 9mm myself and still got a .22 a few guns down the road.
If you must get a .45/1911 I'd say get a Taurus 1911; cheaper than Kimber and a lot nicer than Norinco! so you'll still have some money left on ammo/gear
If you must get a .45/1911 I'd say get a Taurus 1911; cheaper than Kimber and a lot nicer than Norinco! so you'll still have some money left on ammo/gear
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I assume you meant 4 to 5 inch groups and not 4 to 5 foot groups. A 4" group at 20 long steps will get the job done, provided you can do that on demand.
With respect to the accuracy we expect from our pistols; most good quality pistols will shoot 10 MOA, and any attempt to tighten the gun to shoot 5 MOA or better can have detrimental effects on the gun's reliability. A 10 MOA pistol will place all of your shots in just over an inch from your point of aim at 25 yards, resulting in a 2.5" group while the 5 MOA pistol will place all your shots within a half inch of your intended point of aim at 25 yards resulting in an inch and a quarter group. Few can make use of the difference when shooting the pistol as it was designed to be used, and as designed group sizes from pistols don't have much relevance.
