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I've been reloading for about a year and got a new .308 (savage axis, stainless) last year (been using store bought 160gr thru 180gr). Just got my dies for it now i'm going to start reloading for it. There is a question coming;

Is it a good idea to load 200gr sierra gamekings thru it. Lyman's 49th manual gives a starting point for a 200gr BT, however is this too big a bullet to use in this rifle. My thinking is for moose hunting in the Cariboo.




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Dallas
 
Whopperman said:
Is it a good idea to load 200gr sierra gamekings thru it. Lyman's 49th manual gives a starting point for a 200gr BT, however is this too big a bullet to use in this rifle.
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No. It will work. How well will it work, who knows? Take a look at how fast the manual says that bullet is moving, and determine if it has the energy and trajectory to do what you want.
Of course, 200s might not stabilise as Google tells me your rifle has a 1:10 twist.
For the price of a box of bullets, try it and see.
 
zuke said:
.308 work's best with 165gr bullet's.
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Personally this is what i would use.
And yes the .308 was designed around this size of bullet, that's why it works so well....

Next choice would be 150 gr boat tails...the 165's will be fine for moose & cariboo

If you want to shoot bigger bullets buy a bigger rifle.
 
zuke said:
.308 work's best with 165gr bullet's.
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and this is why people should always remember what they pay for free anonymous advice on the internet. This statement is beyond bullshyte. Look up the sports of "Palma" and TR shooting and look at the bullets they use - to 1000 yards.

Twist/bullet weight statements need a serious relality check. German Salazar is an internationally recognized precision shooter in both palma and f-class. He is also a shooting researcher. You might want to read this before sipping from the 10-twist for heavy bullet koolaid
 
Next choice would be 150 gr boat tails...the 165's will be fine for moose & cariboo

If you want to shoot bigger bullets buy a bigger rifle.
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First off I didn't mean for this to degenerate into a peeiing contest. Secondly it's MOOSE hunting IN THE CARIBOO. Thirdly I know that my rifle really likes 168gr Sierra matchking because when I was up at my Dad's cabin we loaded some for my rifle. My question wasn't what is the best round for my rifle.......

My question should have maybe read....
'If I load a 200gr round in my savage axis will it explode and has anyone put 200gr rounds thru their axis and what was their experience?

Sorry if this thread has angered anyone, again not my intent
 
Your 200 grain bullets may shoot well - and no your #### won't fall off - but velocity will be quite low making it iffy for hunting moose here in the Cariboo where shots often tend to be further rather than closer. My personal favorite "heavy-bullet" load in the 308 is the Hornady 180 grain SP which provides a good balance of reach and penetration.
 
Berger offers 12 bullet sample packs and I know Wanstalls has them, I suggest sending Gary a pm and see if he has any heavies. I know it's not the bullet you're looking for, but it'll give you some insight.
Good luck
 
Yes its a good idea. Search 208 amax in the reloading section. There are plenty of guys shooting 208's out of their .308's. I'm sure it will apply with the 308 as well, but from the reading I've done, a heavier bullet of the same style will always outperform a lighter bullet, both in wind drift and energy when loaded to the same PRESSURE, even though the heavy is traveling slower. If I am wrong somebody please fix it, but from the reading I have done, (lots of it) thats what I understand.
However like cdn moose mentioned bullet performance is also very important and is atleast partially dependant on velocity.
 
Thanks guys/gals.

I guess I should have worded the question differently to start. Thank you for the insight and confirming my #### won't fall off if I try it. ;)
I'll give the 200's a try after xmas and see how it works and if I like the way they perform.
 
9x19p said:
Berger offers 12 bullet sample packs and I know Wanstalls has them, I suggest sending Gary a pm and see if he has any heavies. I know it's not the bullet you're looking for, but it'll give you some insight.
Good luck
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I'll swing by there on Saturday, I'm only about 20 mins from those guys and always looking for an excuse to drop in.
 
Yes, the 200 will work. That is, it will shoot quite accurately.

If you are taking shots at, say, 200 yards, the trajectory won't be too bad.

I hunt with the 308 and have elected to use 180 gr for both deer and moose. Less meat damage than the 150 on deer and the 180 shoots reasonably flat and hits hard. I use the flat base 180 Hornady spitzers or the similar Sierra bullets.
 
I have loaded to 200 gr Speer spitzer in several 308 Winchester rifles for hunting big game. It is a great game bulle, and will stabilize properly if your rifle has a 1:10 twist barrel.

My Husqvarna 308 rifles all had a 1:12 twist, and they just barely stabilize the 200 spitzers, printing elliptical holes at 100 yd. The Stevens 200 and Ruger RSI handle the same bullet with aplomb. Re17 is magic with that bullet.

Ted
 
As with most questions such as this one you will get a lot of dissenting opinions but remember they are just opinions and in the end the only one that matters is your own.Obviously input from other shooters can be helpful but ultimately it's your choice.As for 200 gr. in 308 my opinion is they do just fine provided you hold up your end of the bargain.By this I mean you use a properly designed hunting bullet launched at adequate velocity to allow that bullet to expand properly at the ranges you intend to shoot at.Above all,you have to be able to put those bullets into the boiler room of whatever you are hunting on a consistent basis should you decide to take the shot.Just my 2 cents worth on the matter.
 
paperslayer said:
and this is why people should always remember what they pay for free anonymous advice on the internet. This statement is beyond bullshyte. Look up the sports of "Palma" and TR shooting and look at the bullets they use - to 1000 yards.

Twist/bullet weight statements need a serious relality check. German Salazar is an internationally recognized precision shooter in both palma and f-class. He is also a shooting researcher. You might want to read this before sipping from the 10-twist for heavy bullet koolaid
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And your a reloading god? :jerkit:

The 7.62/.308 was designed to be most efficient with that weight of bullet. Do your research before you start running at the mouth cp:
 
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