Good News for French Rifle Fans

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Hope I am not jinxing this but Jet Bullets is looking into making cast bullets in .326/.327 for all those that enjoy shooting the French rifles of the Great War.

Presently the only alternative was sub standard loads and results with smaller .323 diameter bullets or getting some proper .327s from Buffalo Arms and paying 3rd party to import.

With readily available Lee dies, brass from Tradex, and now hopefully economical bullets in country these beauties may start getting more range time.
 
Good news! All those never fired once dropped rifles deserve to be fired. Hahahahahaha







Disclaimer: Relax, it's just a long standing joke, not posted to actually offend people. As I know it will.
 
Good news! All those never fired once dropped rifles deserve to be fired. Hahahahahaha

Disclaimer: Relax, it's just a long standing joke, not posted to actually offend people. As I know it will.

Ya know... if it was anyone else other than you... they'd be in for a beating. Remember Andrew... the Germans copied the 8mm Mauser round from 8mm Lebel. ;)
 
Some people should learn to read history instead of repeating gossip.

In WW 1, It was Ludendorff and Hindenburg who were calling upon the new government to surrender, after the Battle of Amiens (1918), "the black day of the German Army", the Kaiser having fled to Holland. Ludendorff was also responsible for the stab in the back tale.

The French Army was still fighting and with drawing south when Petain and the French Government surrendered
 
The French army in WW1 did basically what the Russian one did in WW2 - bleed the German army dry, albeit with more casualties themselves. No other power inflicted more KIA on the Germans than France. They didn't do that with BB guns.

Everyone talks about Stalingrad. At Verdun the Germans had 337,000 casualties.
 
Some people should learn to read history instead of repeating gossip.

In WW 1, It was Ludendorff and Hindenburg who were calling upon the new government to surrender, after the Battle of Amiens (1918), "the black day of the German Army", the Kaiser having fled to Holland. Ludendorff was also responsible for the stab in the back tale.

The French Army was still fighting and with drawing south when Petain and the French Government surrendered

You're the exact reason I added the part about it being a joke. Chill out.
 
The French army in WW1 did basically what the Russian one did in WW2 - bleed the German army dry, albeit with more casualties themselves. No other power inflicted more KIA on the Germans than France. They didn't do that with BB guns.

Everyone talks about Stalingrad. At Verdun the Germans had 337,000 casualties.

Today, Stalingrad is renamed Volgograd and is a thriving city of over a million people. Roughly 1.8 million soldiers (all sides) were killed, wounded or missing at Stalingrad (about 800,000 total killed), but the land was largely remediated enough post-war that life carries on. the fighting was also pretty concentrated.

Verdun is a whole different matter. Roughly 1 million solders were killed, wounded or missing spread over a massive trench system, but the situation was compounded in that roughly 1 in 4 artillery shells failed to explode, and at least 1/4 of those shells are thought to have been gas shells. (about 300,000 casualties were deaths)

The land was so contaminated by chemical warfare that even 100 years later, nobody lives there and the French government estimates it may take up to another 800 years to clean up the battlefield due to the sheer volume of unexploded ordnance at Verdun. There are walking tours where you literally cannot wander off a 1m wide path for fear of being blown up or gassed, even today.

Today, only about 18,000 people live in Verdun and the countrysides around the city is effectively uninhabited, littered with the remains of completely abandoned villages inside a "red zone".

The Douaumont Verdun ossuary alone holds the remains over over 130,000 "unknown soldiers". You can actually go in an see the bone piles. It's sobering, and similar in the French psyche to how we feel about the Vimy memorial.
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690 million people fought in WW2 and about 25.5M soldiers died - or 3.7%. Only 65 million people fought in WW1 with roughly 9.7 million military dead - or 15%. It was far more hazardous to your health to fight in WW1.

Stalingrad deaths as a percentage of total WW2 military deaths: 3%. Verdun deaths as a percentage of total WW1 military deaths: 3%.
As a percentage of deaths compared to the size of the conflict, the two battles are about equivalent. In terms of lasting impacts to the ground on which it was fought, Verdun remains the worse of the two conflicts.
 
Great write up. German army never recovered from Stalingrad - same for Verdun.

Update- JET BULLETS has the mold on its way!

3 weeks or so and we've got a readily available source of good bullets.
 
Update - Jet Bullets has .327 and .325 bullets. He gave me a few to test and they are good to go.

They weigh in at 192grs. No problems seating them, even though my expander balls are .323 for both Lebel and 8x57. Just had to go slowly.

Fired them at the range last week. Good small holes at 100yds, no signs of instability at all. With just under 30gr of 4198 the Lebel rounds were clocking it at 1900fps out of my Lebel rifle that has a VG condition post war barrel. No signs of excessive pressure or weird things happening to the brass. Everything checked out.

I had a few other cast rounds with .323 diameter bullets as reference - they did not shoot as well. I then switched over to a Berthier and Gew88 rifle with the kind of worn bores you can expect from a WW1 milsurp and the 323s had a few misses, while the larger diameter bullets got them on paper. This is at 100.

Putting in an order for more. Thanks to Jet Bullets for getting molds for these calibers!
 
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