Gotta show it off! '12 No.1 Mk.III

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I just received my Grandfather's sportered SMLE. He got it in the early 50s in a gun trade and in it's time, it has downed a fair share of deer. My Uncle tells me it has not been fired in 15 years or so. What I do know about it is that it's a 1912 BSA No.1 MkIII, spent some time with the R.A.F., DP marked, complete volley sights, full length barrel, mag cutoff, and mismatched bolt. What I am having trouble with are the many stamps on the receiver and knox form. So, here I present some pictures for the experts out there to help me decipher my heirloom! Thanks for any new info in advance!

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VERY nice and very restorable!

DP markings could be stamped on rifles for a variety of reason and did NOT necessarily mean that the rifle was unfit for use. The problem was that the DP stampings were hard to remove so, often, a DP rifle could be repaired to get rid of the DP status.... but still be DP marked.

This one has definitely seen combat use in the Great War: it had a new barrel pactically just last week (actually 1916)! Many of the chamber markings are proofmarks telling you that the rifle was tested for a cartridge case length of 2.222", a working pressure of 18.5 Imperial long tons per square inch (41,440 psi).

The butt marking disc alone is enough to give heart failure to some advanced collectors I know: May, 1935, Royal Air Force, No. 6 Fighter Squadron (I think). This would make it a Battle of France rifle also, would it not? No matter, anyway: it makes the rifle TRACEABLE to its Service career.

There will be an "HV" marking at the rear end of the back sight: "High Velocity" meaning that the sights are set for the 2440 ft/sec velocity of the Mark VII Ball round with the 174-grain composite flatbase bullet.

If you need in-depth information on just how to restore this little prize, scoot on over to milsurps dot com, take out a (free) membership and start pillaging their Military Knowledge Library. They offer every manual you will ever need, all free for the downloading. Read the forum threads carefully, too: they even have three working Armourers who specialise in these critters, not to mention a few other folks who do know what they are talking about and who work on these things regularly.

A FINE toy!

Good luck!

And be sure you keep us posted here on "the rest of the story".
 
Thanks VERY much for the marking info Smellie!
The rifle does in fact have the HV mark under the rear sight(which is also # matching).
I already belong to the Milsurps site, but it's been a long time since my last visit...gotta see if I can get back in....
 
Very nice looking rifle, the ones from family members are always the best.

As per the DP marks, I would have it sent to a gun smith who knows the LE inside and out (not your average smith) and have them take a look and make sure it is alright to shoot. I would not be too worried since your granddad used it for so long, but hey why risk getting hurt over a few days or weeks and a couple of bucks?

If I remember, DP'd rifles usually had the chamber pinned to avoid rifle accidentally fireing them, so Smellies info that it might have been un-DP's sounds likely.

But hey when it comes to the Enfield, I know a bit, but others like Smellie have more knowledge in their trigger finger then Ill probably ever have so take my post in that regard.
 
I have seen a few DP rifles shooting very well. And if that one had already a few deers to its credit, well...

Always a good idea to show it to a knowledgeable smith, for peace of mind, as suggested. And also as mentioned above, that one is begging to be refurbed properly! Great addition to your gun safe,

Lou
 
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