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NRick2

NRick2

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Presumably the majority (if not all) of the members of this sight have no objection to an American joining the sight; indeed, I suspect that I'm not the only one. How about a dualie?? Yep... I'm both: born American, naturalized Canadian (by reason of 40 years residence in the "wild wild west" - Alberta. ;) ). Born in S.F. CA, 11½ yrs in the US, 40 in Canada, and now another 12 back in the USA. I hope to return to Calgary some day (my family's all in Alberta), but increasingly I have concerns about my ability to return. I currently own four (4) firearms (down from 7): a Ruger 10/22 (bought in Calgary in, I believe, '85, well before all the control insanity really got rolling), a 40's vintage Lee-Enfield .303 (courtesy of Cogsworth & Harrison) also acquired in Canada, a 60's vintage Weatherby 7 mm Magnum (not sure where it was purchased; it was presented to my Dad as a gift for his outstanding service to the Alberta Oil and Gas Servicemen's Association), and an Interstate AC replica 12 ga Coach Gun (complete with the external hammers; purchased here in CO). From what I'm reading in the Canadian Firearms Journal, it seems that the Ruger may not be "allowed" in Canada anymore (anyone with accurate knowledge about that?). The two bolt actions, I guess, should be ok, but the coach gun??? Had three pistols (all Rugers), a GP100, a P345, and a Single-6 .22 LR/[Win]Mag. Sold them 'cause I needed some cash quickly. I'd like to reacquire a GP100 (.357 Mag/.38/.38 Spec), but I have serious doubts that I'd be able to bring it in. Can anyone fill me in on what's necessary? Anyway, I'm glad to be a member here, and I'm pleased that there is a sizeable pro-firearms community in my other native land R:d: I fervently believe in my right to self protection. It's constitutionally guaranteed here. Not sure about there. A Calgary cop once told me (in '96 I think) that when it comes to break-ins, the citizen can do what a policeman can do, which involves following an escalation protocol. I'm not sure if deadly force is included in that. Colorado incorporates the Castle Doctrine, the so-called "Make My Day" law provides for self-defense within one's home (up to and including deadly force). Wowser!!! I'm rambiling on. :eek: Sorry. Glad to be a member here.
 
Welcome aboard my friend! Yes, lots of folks from the U.S on here. In fact from many corners of the world!
enjoy the site!
 
Hi. Our Southern cousins are not only welcome, they're encouraged to join us.
Go here. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/moving-emmenager-eng.htm
The rifles are fine. Including the 10/22 as long as its OAL is greater than 26". Ditto for the Coach Gun.
"...reacquire a GP100..." No 4.1" or less barrels allowed, but Ruger is making a 4.2" that is. A 6" is fine, of course.
"...right to self protection..." Huge can of worms, up here. No CCW and no Castle Doctrine.
"...following an escalation protocol..." That's putting it mildly.
 
Welcome to the site!

Regarding Canadian self defence laws, this site has a reasonable explanation of sections 34-37 of the criminal code. It's still clear as mud, and I'm sure that if you actually shot a person, you'd be facing a huge can of worms, regardless of the circumstance, but if it ever came to that point, I imagine that survival would be your primary concern, and legal entanglements would be far from the front of your mind.
 
Thanks for the welcome. Yeah, the 10/22 is an unaltered standard Ruger... about 36" oal. The GP100 I had had a 4.something barrel... I'd like to say it was the correct millimetric length (which I forget what is just now) but I can't for sure.

I got the sense that that particular Calgary cop (and perhaps many of the Calgary cops) had a tendency to, how shall I put it, sympathize with the home owner. He might, for example, phrase investigative questions such that your answers would indicate that you felt overwhelming fear for you life. That sort of thing. CCW is possible in Canada (to the best of my knowledge) but it's really f**kin' hard to get. You have to have a humpty-dillion reasons for requesting it, all of which must be plausible, feasible, and credible. That's too bad, 'cause I'd like to have the .357 for carry in my vehicle's console. Almost a set-it-and-forget-it scenario until some dirtbag pulls up beside you and starts wavin' a piece. Mind you, the coach gun (@ 20" barrel length) would be almost as handy.

Thanks for your welcome
 
Yes, of course. Survival is probably the strongest of our instincts. Section 34.2 is the important one:
"2) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted and who causes death or grievous bodily harm in repelling the assault is justified if
(a) he causes it under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence with which the assault was originally made or with which the assailant pursues his purposes; and
(b) he believes, on reasonable grounds, that he cannot otherwise preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm. "

Any criminal lawyer worth his salt, in my opinion, should be able to procure acquittal on these grounds, unless of course the individual who defended him/herself was doing so in witnesses-present circumstances. Seems to me that b&e "artists" usually "ply their trade" in the dark (at night of course) when everyone is either out or asleep. I'd be willing to wager that in most cases no one will be able to effectively contradict a claim of "I believed I saw a weapon", or something similar.

Personnally, what I think I'd do is, of course, get the drop on the dirt bag, have him (or her if that's the case) remove all of their clothing, including underwear, and kick him/her out of the house. Report a naked b&e ####bag runnin' around the 'hood. Cops should be able to find him/her, eh???
 
In a perverted sort of way I'm rather glad that you are. If more (and more) Canadians became envious of Americans' rights, then the Canadian Constitution could conceivably be amended to include those same rights. Don't ever think, however, that our rights, here, are not in danger. We have gun controllers/grabbers here as well. We also have the NRA who, as fanatico/political as they may appear, are a very strong organization whom the cannot easily brush off (Mayor Bloomberg of NYC being one such #######). Canada has the NFA, and that's a good thing. I would hope that they're as effective.
 
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