Grey Birch LDR Owners?

grauhanen said:
Claims such as this do a disservice to readers by raising false expectations.

At both 50 and 100 yards, there's a difference between getting occasional good results with inexpensive non-match ammo such as CCI SV and getting regular and consistent good results. While it's not surprising to achieve some MOA groups at 50 with ammo such as CCI SV, it must be noted that seeing the same for 100 yards becomes increasingly unlikely because .22LR performance is not linear. It gets worse and worse as distance increases.

If the results described with either CCI SV regular and consistent -- that is, more or less all the time -- that experience is literally quite incredible. Few shooters make the claim, let alone back it up. Similarly, if SK Standard Plus delivers regular and consistent .75 MOA at both 50 and 100 -- regardless of rifle -- it is also equally incredible. Neither CCI SV nor SK Standard Plus can be expected to deliver MOA or better performance on anything like a regular basis at 50 and especially at 100.
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I have thrown multiple thousands of various rounds of .22LR down range between my various .22 PRS rifle setups over the years. I understand how to measure groups and wouldn't be making these statements in a flippant way.

Shooting from the bench out of my 10/22 build, CCI SV regularly preforms MOA at 50/100 yds. Out of my RimX with a 1:12 PVA barrel at 50/100 SK Standard Plus regularly preforms sub MOA and is quite similar to Long Range Match at those ranges. Where I notice the difference between Standard+ and LRM is 250y+.
 
laker415 said:
If you want to go on and on about how good or bad CCI SV is, go start a thread. This was about LDR Owners and their experiences with the rifle. Thanks for stopping by
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My mistake. I understand your confusion. You want great accuracy at low cost. Everyone wants that.

It was wrong to respond after a dubious answer to your own question about how well CCI SV performs in the LDR rifle at 50 and 100.

laker415 said:
What kind of accuracy are you seeing at 50 and 100 yards? Does it run cheap stuff ok like CCI SV?
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Grey Birch said:
It loves CCI SV, which will still be sub moa.
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Accept my regrets and go ahead and believe you got a good answer. Take it as the truth that with certain rifles CCI SV will regularly produce sub-MOA at both 50 and 100. The LDR will spin straw into gold.
 
All I know is I have an LDR on the way, I've got lot's of CCI SV kicking around , and now apparently an internet moa "guarantee" from the poster Grey Birch....

:)
 
grauhanen said:
My mistake. I understand your confusion. You want great accuracy at low cost. Everyone wants that.

It was wrong to respond after a dubious answer to your own question about how well CCI SV performs in the LDR rifle at 50 and 100.





Accept my regrets and go ahead and believe you got a good answer. Take it as the truth that with certain rifles CCI SV will regularly produce sub-MOA at both 50 and 100. The LDR will spin straw into gold.
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Buddy, what is wrong with you? Honestly. I'm not confused about anything. I know CCI isn't premium ammo. Not once did I say it was. I merely asked if the gun would cycle it and provide decent accuracy, say, for a kid at 50 yards, like the kid I have who will use this gun for general plinking fun. I know about premium ammo and will most likely run that too.

So carry on being the smartest guy on here. Go find maple57 and you 2 can compare who is the smartest member on here between yourselves.
 
laker415 said:
Buddy, what is wrong with you? Honestly. I'm not confused about anything. I know CCI isn't premium ammo. Not once did I say it was.
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Please accept my apology. I should have avoided the sarcasm. No one alleged you thought CCI was premium ammo. Others, however, made false claims about CCI performance. Those claims were addressed for the benefit of other readers who may be following this thread and accept what was said about CCI. Misinformation is never good. They may not understand as well as you do.
 
I had one with a Timney trigger but a regular 10/22 hogue stock. The barrel nut would require material taken off the stock. I didn’t want to go that route. So the stock may have affected accuracy.

Comparing to a Kidd and Dlask: Accuracy not as sharp (may be due to stock). Re-assembly of bolt into receiver is easier than a dlask. That Dlask was extremely tight.
 
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transumer said:
I had one with a Timney trigger but a regular 10/22 hogue stock. The barrel nut would require material taken off the stock. I didn’t want to go that route. So the stock may have affected accuracy.

Comparing to a Kidd and Dlask: Accuracy not as sharp (may be due to stock). Re-assembly if bolt into receiver is easier than a dlask. That Dlask was extremely tight.
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Interesting. I bought the complete rifle in their chassis. I may try a krg bravo if I don't like the chassis
 
transumer said:
I had one with a Timney trigger but a regular 10/22 hogue stock. The barrel nut would require material taken off the stock. I didn’t want to go that route. So the stock may have affected accuracy.

Comparing to a Kidd and Dlask: Accuracy not as sharp (may be due to stock). Re-assembly if bolt into receiver is easier than a dlask. That Dlask was extremely tight.
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Its a very minimal amount of material to remove to drop our fusion system into a magpul hunter or hogue stock. perhaps .010 per side across a 1" length
 
You will enjoy the rifle, either way. The Kidd trigger group will just make it a more enjoyable experience. While the BX trigger are okay, there is no comparison to the Kidd trigger.

I even tried a timney Calvin elite trigger once, and will continue using Kidd from now on.

Very light versatile rifle. accuracy was acceptable, and they have made leaps and bounds in the advancements from their first release. I've had one of their first series rifles and chassis, and enjoyed the fusion series as well.

Their customer service rocks as well!
 
My bud bought the whole firearm and chassis. Solid light aluminum. Really nice. Cheek piece has no wiggle/rattle. It is just thin plastic. I would like to see it rubberized or such. If you get a grey 10/22 definitely go with chassis you will be satisfied. Please report back accuracy.

As a side note: we tried a variety of Lapua SK, CCI std and mini mag, Aguila, a variety of RWS, Eley, and S&B. Std velocity ammo was more accurate. RWS Club and S&B Match were the winners.

I was using a Kidd trigger pack with 2 stage (1lb/1lb) Flat trigger... just wish it was blue!
 
I'll be back with accuracy updates for sure. I've got a good variety of ammo to try. I'm used to light triggers so hopefully I can make due with the BX trigger for a bit. The price of the kidd triggers is a bit discouraging, lol
 
wallz said:
You will enjoy the rifle, either way. The Kidd trigger group will just make it a more enjoyable experience. While the BX trigger are okay, there is no comparison to the Kidd trigger.

Agreed! I recently bought a Kidd two stage and it is sweet. Best trigger I have is the two stage Anschutz on my match 54 but the Kidd two stage is a very close second.
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