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mooseisloose

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Well here is a story that will get your blood boiling over.

While I was in NB hunting moose over the past week...I awoke Saturday and decided to check my e-mail since the hunt was long over for me. Seen that I had a message from our deer camp leader back in Ottawa...which read..."Just to let you all know the Hunt Camp is on Fire As I write this"....sent at 2:30am....my heart dropped.

Some duck hunters were heading into their camp and found it ablaze and called the owner.

Turns out some arseholes decided to stop by and have a few drinks in the driveway of our hunt camp and broke in...took the lines off the oil stove and threw oil all over and lit the place on fire...the Damn nerve of some people.

This camp has been there for 60 years. We have 2 older gentlemen who built the place and still hunt there...its the one thing they love to do and look forward to...and some losers went and took it all away.

There is no possible way to rebuild in time for the hunt...so we have decided to not hunt this season...thanks alot arseholes. Probably never rebuild given the fact that they could easily burn us out again.

Stuff like this makes me wonder how people can live with themselves

Camp was located on the California Rd. in WMU 63A.
 
Damn! That sucks! I know that area well as I used to hunt on Crown land up there years back.

Don't give up, get a wall tent or see if you can get a trailer in there for the week.
 
Have the perps been caught?

I have an isolated property that I will be building a cottage/camp on next year. I leave all kinds of power tools and motors there for most of the summer in a small cabin I stay in. Not a day goes by that I don't think about it getting broken into and getting cleaned out. Especially since some pr!ck stole my 12' aluminum this spring and I can't find insurance to cover my situation.

I feel for you and your camp mates.
 
I just had chills up and down my spine as I read your post moose. I have a place on very nearby White Lake. It was just broken in to 2 weeks ago. After every break in I console myself by thinking, well at least I still have the building, the contents are easier to replace even though I don't have insurance right now.

Now that said, I would encourage you and your party to be up there this season. Maybe you can borrow a tent or trailer as other guys suggested? The thing that you guys still have there is the land. I hunt the area as well (not the California Rd., but very close by) and I wouldn't be surprised if the people that did that hunt the area as well. There is a lot of tension between camps out in the bush, in my experience. If you have some guys up there you will avoid problems in subsequent years by keeping a presence in your area every year. Guys will know that you are not there real quick, then you will have to deal with them next year.

The california rd. area is really beautiful, I was just up there cycling along the rd. and enjoyed it a lot.

This is really tragic, sucks @ss big time - especially for the older guys who started the camp. But, the camp should continue by any means necessary. Don't let these guys win.
 
mooseisloose said:
Camp was located on the California Rd. in WMU 63A.
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I've heard of some camps burning down the neighbors so they can hunt the land...Some people think they own everything and they are the only ones entitled to use it...

IMO most vandals would be too lazy to do that without motive...Just a thought, is it Crown land or private?
 
Yeah, tend to agree with blargon. Don't be surprised if you know the guys who did this. Just don't beat yourselves up about what happened. It is not your or the members of your camps fault. There isn't anything that you could have done to have deserved what happened.

Man this really sucks. Can't stop thinking about this. The guys that did this have some epic karma to deal with that's for sure. Specially if they get caught. They better hope that if they are caught it is by the cops.
 
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I cant beleieve in this day and age that camp owners don't have a trail cam hidden somewhere close by for things like this. Some of the new ones can take pics at night without a flash going off from what I understand. Sure would make catching these guys easy! Buddy of mine had the same thing happen on a brand new Cabin he built on 75 acres across from his house, he built it to enjoy taking his grandson deer hunting there. He has since expanded to 275 acres and lined the place at all the easy access points with trail cams, you can't believe how many people trespass?! Anyways they aren't trespassing any more! He has approached them all as he has caught them on the camera, most are his neighbours or live in the area. The ones he likes are able to use the property, the rest , well you get the idea. He said wish I had that set up to see who burned down the cabin!
 
on securing your other stuff, construction material, tools etc.... get a 20' sea container and a good lock.

Oh I'm assuming that you have some sort of trail that goes to your camp you can get it down.
 
My Uncle and his brothers built a cabin 2 years ago in an area where their father used to take them trouting. It used to take 2 hours on a quad over the roughest kind of terrain. They finished up the cabin and spent 2 nights in there. The next weekend the went in for a night only to find it burned to the ground. Needless to say, if they ever get caught I hope it's by the cops and not the cabin owners, lol. They are out about 10 grand for the materials and they (and me) worked liked dogs just getting the materials on site.

The worst part is one of the brothers has cancer. He was the one who really wanted the cabin. The rest of the brothers did it more for him than themselves.

It may have been just random chance that it was their cabin that was burned, or as someone else said earlier, it may have been someone who didn't want them in that part of the country.

They have since started to rebuild in another area but they say on the chance that it was someone who didn't want them in the area of the first cabin they plan to rebuild at the burn site as well. He says when he's finished there will be a road big enough for a tractor trailer going in there, lol.
 
I am very sad and angry to read about those asshats.

A friend in Utah set up an infrared lights with infrared camera in 2 locations on his remote property... Facing the house to catch rear license plates of vehicles and then one facing the front so as to catch faces.

They are both hidden in trees with a discrete solar panel and cold weather capable battery system. They record both to some sort of USB flash stick as well as to a cellular network that alerts him and uploads the images to a web site he has.

It was a few grand to do, but he says that his property while insured would take a major amount of work to re-build and the family history would be painful to lose. He is also a computer programmer who was able to do his own systems integration. I thought it was pretty cool though.

A few simple trail cams would help though.
 
cday said:
They have since started to rebuild in another area but they say on the chance that it was someone who didn't want them in the area of the first cabin they plan to rebuild at the burn site as well. He says when he's finished there will be a road big enough for a tractor trailer going in there, lol.
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Likely someone was already hunting that area and think they own it...

FWIW, In Ontario if you build a cabin on crown land without a permit/lease, the MNR will burn it down...
 
Feel bad for you. :(

But try to make the best out of it...use a wall tent/ trailer etc. instead.

Don't give up deer hunting for the year. :eek:
 
We sold our once "fly-in only" moose camp after the logging roads brought forth with them the vile filth of society. Four times being robbed was enough. Just stupid, annoying stuff - like frying pans, sugar, spare fishing tackle, and oars.

I understand your frustration.
 
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