Gsg-5

I have the feeling that if it somehow became available, there would be a bunch of people jumping in on it and posting pics of their new toy on this site. Haven't seen any, so I figure it's still not available.
 
You know what... maybe this shouldn't be dropped.

This is something we could clearly win on if enough political pressure was put on the government. No legislation is required, its done by OIC's, so if the government decided they could simply issue an OIC and PRESTO it would be unrestricted.

Its an easy case to make:

1) not same calibre, but underpowered .22LR
2) it has no parts interchangeability
3) completely different action
4) only similarities are cosmetic.

This is a case which could be won.
 
vinzer said:
Than why it is proibited ? :) Maybe there is something else which does not allow this rifle to jump from "prohib" to "non-restr" ?
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Because the RCMP jumped the gun and made it prohibited just because it looks like an MP5. They could have waited to examine the internals, but that would have made their life more difficult.

There is no justification at all for prohibiting it.
 
Yep, hire a big shot lawyer and take it to court. 10years later it'll still be prohib and even if it wasn't you'd be too broke to buy one.
 
I handled one in Rochester while visiting a friend a few weeks back. I asked the owner some questions about it, and his response was (to paraphrase) - couldn't understand what all the hype was... just another overpriced .22
 
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Paul Morrison said:
You know what... maybe this shouldn't be dropped.

This is something we could clearly win on if enough political pressure was put on the government. No legislation is required, its done by OIC's, so if the government decided they could simply issue an OIC and PRESTO it would be unrestricted.

Its an easy case to make:

1) not same calibre, but underpowered .22LR
2) it has no parts interchangeability
3) completely different action
4) only similarities are cosmetic.

This is a case which could be won.
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It'd be a good one for one of the orgs to take on.
 
I'm not talking about taking it through the courts. It would never work.

I'm talking about using politics.

Write MP's, petition the minister, work through party channels.
 
Paul is correct, we just wait to see what happens and then throw our hands in the air and say "oh well, maybe next time" even though there is absolutely no reason to prohibit this arm. With the crowd we have gathered at CGN, do we not agree that we could start at least pushing back??
 
Agreed. This would be an EXCELLENT case to get the CSSA on. It's not about the GSG5 specifically, but rather a 100% winnable test-run to get the door cracked on changing the other OIC's.

We NEED to make the RCMP accountable for their decisions...they are public servants, here to enforce the rules...not make up their own.

I'm sorry, but "It's prohib because we say so, no other explanation needed" is UNACCEPTABLE. They have called it prohibited as an MP5 variant, which it is 100%, absolutely and undisputably NOT.

So...if it's not an MP5 variant...and that's the only reason it's prohib, why can't I buy one?

THIS is the question the CSSA and/or NFA need to address.
 
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So, what's the next step? Who do we talk to? Can we email the RCMP and ask for an explanation? Will they give us one?
I thought that the company that originally tried to import this firearm tried a second time to get it looked at to see if they could change the status and the RCMP still said no.
 
Don't contact the mounties. They'll stonewall you, and you'll go nowhere fast. Call and write your MP. Call and write Stockwell Day. Make some noise. Your MP isn't due back in Ottawa for a bit. He/she will have some time for sit-down meetings the next few days.

This is an opportunity for our new government to show the common sense they said they'd have. Besides that, they need to remind their hirelings that the government makes legislation. The police enforce it. That's how it works in a feckin' democracy.
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
Don't contact the mounties. They'll stonewall you, and you'll go nowhere fast. Call and write your MP. Call and write Stockwell Day. Make some noise. Your MP isn't due back in Ottawa for a bit. He/she will have some time for sit-down meetings the next few days.

This is an opportunity for our new government to show the common sense they said they'd have. Besides that, they need to remind their hirelings that the government makes legislation. The police enforce it. That's how it works in a feckin' democracy.
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Stockwell isnt minister of public health anymore.
 
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