Stockwell Day is no longer public safety Minister. Call Peter Van Loan, he's the guy now.
Actually, this would be a good case for an RCMP ombudsmen, if there was one.
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Stockwell Day is no longer public safety Minister. Call Peter Van Loan, he's the guy now.
Actually, this would be a good case for an RCMP ombudsmen, if there was one.
The problem will challenging this is that prohibitions were done, more or less, without rhyme or reason. If the Mounties say it's prohib because it's a variant, when we know it's not, it doesn't change the fact that our regs were not introduced on facts or logic. Firearms were arbitrarily chosen for prohibition and it appears it was done on looks alone.
The other problem, perhaps the greatest, is that if the Mounties change their mind on this one it opens up the flood gates for additional appeals and I very much so doubt the Mounties want to balance whatever the government interests are at the time with already vague regulations.
The other problem, perhaps the greatest, is that if the Mounties change their mind on this one it opens up the flood gates for additional appeals and I very much so doubt the Mounties want to balance whatever the government interests are at the time with already vague regulations.
Forget about the boys in red, they don't matter.
Prohibitions are done by Orders In Council. An order could be issued by the government specifically de-prohibiting this firearm. It could be done on a friday and the gun would be unrestricted on Saturday morning. No house votes, no laws required, just a cabinet level decision, followed by issuing an Order in Council to the effect that the firearm is unrestricted.
They've already done this once under the liberals to de-prohibit the unrestricted valmets.
Here's the case I'm going to try and make:
Canadian gun owners are a loyal CPC constituency, more loyal than most others. Its a constituency with some serious concerns about the direction of the government on this file. There are some pushing for a more conservative or libertarian party, and there are others who see the status quo as being the only option an vote for other parties.
Point out that there are several NDP held ridings with widespread gun ownership (northern ontario, NWT, and etc...) These ridings are held on the strength of union ties, but they could be weakened if the NDP is seen as a threat to their right to hunt.
If the government took small, politically inexpensive steps to actively court this community, as they have with ethnic communities, it would bolster their vote total and could potentially deliver some ridings into CPC hands.
So, issue an OIC on the GSG5. Most people in the nation won't notice, it shouldn't be a prohib anyways. It costs the government nothing, it expends almost no political capital, but it is a symbol of being friendly with gun owners.
That's the tack I'm going to take (Will be at the convention in two weeks and I hope to drag Van Loan aside for a couple of minutes).
Prohibitions are done by Orders In Council. An order could be issued by the government specifically de-prohibiting this firearm. It could be done on a friday and the gun would be unrestricted on Saturday morning. No house votes, no laws required, just a cabinet level decision, followed by issuing an Order in Council to the effect that the firearm is unrestricted.
They've already done this once under the liberals to de-prohibit the unrestricted valmets.
Here's the case I'm going to try and make:
Canadian gun owners are a loyal CPC constituency, more loyal than most others. Its a constituency with some serious concerns about the direction of the government on this file. There are some pushing for a more conservative or libertarian party, and there are others who see the status quo as being the only option an vote for other parties.
Point out that there are several NDP held ridings with widespread gun ownership (northern ontario, NWT, and etc...) These ridings are held on the strength of union ties, but they could be weakened if the NDP is seen as a threat to their right to hunt.
If the government took small, politically inexpensive steps to actively court this community, as they have with ethnic communities, it would bolster their vote total and could potentially deliver some ridings into CPC hands.
So, issue an OIC on the GSG5. Most people in the nation won't notice, it shouldn't be a prohib anyways. It costs the government nothing, it expends almost no political capital, but it is a symbol of being friendly with gun owners.
That's the tack I'm going to take (Will be at the convention in two weeks and I hope to drag Van Loan aside for a couple of minutes).
I doubt the Torries would risk the possible political blow-back.
"OMG, Evil Conservatives allow gangsters to have black super-sub-assault-machine-guns." Followed by a picture of the evil GSG-5.
Let's face it, we all want this particular firearm because it's a bad-ass looking semi-auto.
I would imagine we would have more luck in the courts, pushing this item as a collector piece that does not fall under the category of a variant of the MP5.
"OMG, Evil Conservatives allow gangsters to have black super-sub-assault-machine-guns." Followed by a picture of the evil GSG-5.
Let's face it, we all want this particular firearm because it's a bad-ass looking semi-auto.
I would imagine we would have more luck in the courts, pushing this item as a collector piece that does not fall under the category of a variant of the MP5.
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True dat.
I suppose in a country where so many cool toys are available it might be just that. Than again they can probably own the 9mm Full auto in some states so not as big of a deal.
Here? Even toys of them were banned so...
Questions should always be asked without people telling other people to "drop it".
Luke
