Gun counter wisdom.

pharaoh2

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So I won't mention any names of where I was in Calgary, (cough) but I was standing there patiantly waiting for my number to come up. Mind you, I had a long time to be patiant, a half hour to be exact from when I walked up to the counter to when I paid to leave. In this time I heard some remarkable things.

First, if your going to be buying a hunting rifle, be prepared to spend anywhere from $1500 to $2000. None of the others are going to work, and their all standard production, except for Sako. Their not considered standard production, and you are almost gauranteed to bag your animal with one.

Those new fangled short mag thingy's just aren't good. Nothing but problems.

The take down feature on the BLR's is a new idea, and it's the wave of the future.

And most important, Sandra is like, such a slut.
 
That place was failing when I worked there in 2000. It was a great job for a young fella, but the 40yr-old virgins started piling in and all the fun people started piling out. There was a fella that worked there (he now works at Canadian Tire) that I over heard (as a customer) telling some poor newbie that it wasn't real worry they were out of FFFF black. You just take F or FF and grind it between storm door screen into a pail and wa-la magic its FFFF. Just really hope you don't generate the static electricity rubbing screen together without being grounded is guaranteed to do.
 
A clerk in England sold a newbie Pistol 1 powder because they were out of Rifle 1. This was subsituting Bullseye for 3031. Results were specacular in a 308. The case vaporized.

I know a very, very knowledgeable shooter/hunter who owned a gunshop. he tried to help newbies who should have been worshipping at his feet.

Most would not listen because they knew so little they did not know they did not know. After awhile he gave up trying.
 
The very least I would ever recommend for deer hunting is a Tikka T3 7mm rem mag, but you should really probable just go for a Sako 85.
 
Go back and tell them they are SOOO wrong and a rifle isn't even worth looking at unless it costs $3500-5000 and so on and so forth :D
 
Knowledge

I know a very, very knowledgeable shooter/hunter who owned a gunshop. he tried to help newbies who should have been worshipping at his feet.

Most would not listen because they knew so little they did not know they did not know. After awhile he gave up trying.

You got that one right! We once ran some courses to introduce Women to shooting, firearms, and the sport.

Those Women did exceptionally well. After a few lessons, many of them could shoot a heck of a lot better then most of the Men on a similar course.

The reason was Knowledge, or lack of it. The Women, having only a little knowledge of firearms actually listened to you, and did what you told them to do. Having no preconceived notions, they did things properly, and a lot of them ended up really good shots.

When you run the same course with Men, there is a serious gap in listening ability. The average guy taking a similar course regards himself as a cross between Wyatt Earp and Wild Bill Hickock, and he ABSOLUTELY KNOWS how to shoot a gun. Very little of what you tell him will stick between his ears, and he is going to do things HIS way.

A great percentage of guys behind a gun counter are the same way. They have THEIR views of what is appropriate, and nothing else will do. A 30-06 or (horrors) a .308 will bounce off a deer at under 100 yards, and you have to have something that says "Magnum" on it to even venture into the woods. Never mind that your hunting conditions are deep black timber or cedar swamps where you are lucky to see 50 yards, you gotta have the latest flavor of the month. A lot of these people are dangerous.

Not only that, there is a large amount of misinformation posted on these forums by people who did something once or twice, got away with it, and now flap their fingers over the keyboard to give their experiences on the DISINFORMATION NET. Examples are "It is all safe to fire .308 in 30-06 in an emergency;" " I want to rechamber my 340 Savage 30-30 to .308;" and "shooting .22 LR in a .17HMR rifle."

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The person should have been at the range last Sunday when I was RSO and a fellow that was shooting had the barrel of his Sako come unscrewed. You could turn it out by hand, first time I saw this happen.
 
Or the two guys at the range sighting in their rifle again this year because they could not get it on paper at 25 yards. Then finally one hit the target but it keyholed. "What are you shooting?" "A 7mm Remington Mag." Well the empties had the shortest necks I have ever seen on a 7mm but looked very similar to fireformed 300 Win Mag with an even shorter neck. First question: Who sold them this gun as a 7mm? Second question: Who bought it? While there was only one rifle they kept using the term "we".
 
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when employees go from that store to work at canadian tire, that suggests something- i've got a couple of guns through these guys, but only because "i've got a guy"- and i ALWAYS GO ON A WEEKDAY when there's no one else in the store or section -SUCH ARE THE BENEFITS OF BEING RETIRED
mostly what i do is SHOP AT RUSSELS. the two are almost mirror images except for restricteds, and the odd thing, and i always peruse the catalogue and get the STOCK NUMBER before entering the HALLWAYS OF THE DAMNED
as for sandra, i'll take slutty over classy every time
 
Ever think that maybe its the company line to up sell.Just like Mickey D's.Some times it pays to listen to the line of BS just to get that pearl of wisdom that might slip out.And since your there waiting in line its good entertainment.But then so is Sandra.
 
I have lived 3min. from Russell's for three years. Hadn't set foot in there until a few weeks ago. Less wait time, better stock(they had 7mm Weatherby dies) and the people behind the counter are not full of themselves. I don't go to WSS anymore.
 
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