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Hey everyone,

I am currently looking at buying a long-range rig (.308WIN), and have some questions. Between the Savage 10FP McMillian ( MODEL 10FP-LE SHORT ACTION · 10FP - LE2B for $999.95 @ Wholesale) and the Remington 700LTR ($1099 @ Wholesale), which would you suggest? Right now, I am leaning more toward the Savage, due to price, and stock selection. Would it make sense to buy a cheaper Savage, and upgrade the stock seperately (I really like the new Bell and Carlson model...don't know what its called)?

Finally, to keep this rifle relatively inexpensive, what would you suggest I do in terms of optics, if I want to be shooting to 500yrd max.

Any info would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks in advance

Mac
 
The savage is a poor fit in the micmillan tactical. It needs to be bedded. Though when I was on the hunt for mine, wholesale wasn't going to have any in for a verry long time. I would say try both of the stocks out for fit, and pick the one that feels the most comfortable.

That half mill spaced mp20 reticle looks intersting.
 
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Oh and you know what, I love my HS Precision stock, and wouldn't trade it for a McMillan (except maybe the A5). The palm swell fits my hand nicely, and it's very comfortable (minus the needed cheekpad, for my setup anyway).

-Rohann
 
If you bought a cheaper Salvage and then bought the B&C stock you would end up spening more money on a lesser quality rifle. Buy the LE2B and don't look back.

FWIW, if you're trying to compare apples to oranges you picked a good choice with the LTR. A more comparable rifle would be the 700P.

If, like Rohan, you happen to like large palm swells and H&S stocks, the H&S Precision stocked FP might be a good choice and far less money than a 700P.
 
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If, like Rohan, you happen to like large palm swells and H&S stocks, the H&S Precision stocked FP might be a good choice and far less money than a 700P.
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Some people call me weird but I find I can get a sturdier, more comfortable grip on it.

-Rohann
 
When I bought my LTR it was because I wanted a precision rifle that I could still hunt with, without being weighed down by your typical precison rifle. My more traditional precision rifles weigh in at 13-16lbs where as my LTR tips the scales under 10lbs with everything on it it. While my LTR doesn't shoot as tight of groups at ranges past 600yds it still keeps pace with my fully custom 700 and is much much easier to carry up in the hills. (and is a 1/3 of the price)

The Savage FP's tip the scales at 9lbs with out scope/bipod so you are looking in the neighbourhood of 13lbs all kitted out. Add an afermarket stock and a good deal isn't such a deal anymore, as I'm learning with my Savage 12FV in .223.
 
I'm with Rohann,
I also have a 10FP with the HS Precision stock and can't say enough about it. Looks good, feels good and shoots just the same.

Before I got the 10FP HS, I too was looking into purchasing a standard 10FP and running the B&C varmint/target(I think that's the one?) stock. Like Cappy pointed out, after a new stock, bipod, glass, mounts etc etc. The "build it yourself for less" plan wasn't working out. Saving the extra money(or breaking the bank) really is a better option. Buy right the first time and you'll only buy once...

TDC
 
If you don't go with a McMillan or HS Precision stock, I wouldn't recommend going for a Savage. I haven't bought a recent one, but I can say that "Savage" stocks are absolute crap.

-Rohann
 
Thanks a lot for everyone's replies thus far. I really appriciate it. If I did end up going for a Savage, where could I find an HS Precision stock for it. I was looking on their website, and from what I can see, they don't make on for any Savage rifles. Also, what is the price range for these. Thanks again!

Mac
 
If your looking at stocks you should check out Robertson composites. They make great stocks in many variations. I had a chance to check out the H&H model (i think that is what it was) fitted to a savage very nice setup.

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My first suggestion would be to pick a base system Remington or Savage that you think has the most potential to upgrade, stock, trigger, barrrel and or mag system. And then shoot the S$$T out of it, find out what you like don't like about the rifle and go from there.
 
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Macsailor,
Keep in mind your intentions for this rifle before you purchase anything. The extreme accuracy required for Benchrest or Postal matches is not necessary for someone who wishes to shoot varmint, hunt larger game, or just shoot potatoes(lots of fun with potatoes!). Customizing your hardware is fun and can become very costly. Not to mention addicting.

In response to where one can get a 10FP with HS stock, I purchased mine from wholesale sports here in Calgary. All told it ran me $890 tax in if I remember correctly. Keep in mind that a stock 10FP in .308 costs around $640. For a better stock you can expect to add $250 or more. Mostly more depending on who's stock you use. The B&C varmint/target is around $280 I believe? That has now pushed your total cost to $920 and that does not include tax. After you change stocks, you now have a factory stock that you paid for that is of no use.

However, as Trevor60 mentioned, if you aren't completely sold on having to have a different stock(or any other parts) than buying a stock 10FP and determining later on what you do and don't need to change is always an option. You have to weigh the risks. Would buying a rig with a better stock outweigh the costs of replacing a factory one later? What are the chances I don't like the better stock and still end up changing it? These are the questions only you can answer. On a positive note, if you do buy an HS stock or McMillian or or even Choate. It wouldn't be hard to move it here online if you decide on something else.

TDC

ETA: The HS website does not indicate any stocks for Savage. The HS stock is a factory option from Savage.
 
There is a better choice than the two you are looking at, my firend just ordered one from Epp's New for 2007 Remington XCR acvailable in .223, 308
and 300 win mag, 26" fluted barrel 416 stainless, Bell and Carlson (green) stock go to page 20 of new Remington Cataloge, you can order one N/C or drop by Remington dealer to look at photo and spec's $1200 app
http://www.remington.com/tactical/tactical_rifles.asp
 
Another option would be the new savage 12f/tr for long range target,has nice laminate stock 30" barrel and will retail just under 1100 on Canada.Should be available this summer
 
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