Gunsmith for Hi Power Trigger Job
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It a new one or an older model? Browning mucked around with 'em a bit.
Isn't hard to do yourself. First thing is to take out the idiotic mag safety. That alone will drop the trigger pull significantly. Field strip, then poke out the wee, tiny pin in the trigger and remove the spring and safety(it's a plunger) out the back of the trigger. Might be in there tight. My Inglis didn't need anything else. Then you can change the other springs if you want.
Isn't hard to do yourself. First thing is to take out the idiotic mag safety. That alone will drop the trigger pull significantly. Field strip, then poke out the wee, tiny pin in the trigger and remove the spring and safety(it's a plunger) out the back of the trigger. Might be in there tight. My Inglis didn't need anything else. Then you can change the other springs if you want.
It is a new MkIII.
Yes, I want to take out the magazine disconnect, and I'll do that before the trigger job.
You should buy the proper sized punch for removing the trigger roll pin, the size 3/32 rings a bell. You can buy a set of pistol sized punches. The mag safety does not fall out, it is a bit of work to get it out. Be careful where you do the work as the parts could go flying and be lost if you unlucky.
Hmmm...this thread has got me thinking about my "T" series HP.
I acquired it from my father who bought it BNIB in the mid-70's. It may have seen 100rnds and still mint.
I know it's nothing special and just a "tool" but I can't bring myself to shooting it.... My go to 9mm is a Glock17. It has served me well but it may be time for HP to come out.
Question:
Should I also perform the mag disconnect on the HP or leave it stock? Does it really make that much of a diff.
Will shooting the HP convert me?
OP...I would trust Casey (TacOrd) with just about any smithing job but he's a bit of a drive from you and he's a busy guy (for obvious reasons).
I acquired it from my father who bought it BNIB in the mid-70's. It may have seen 100rnds and still mint.
I know it's nothing special and just a "tool" but I can't bring myself to shooting it.... My go to 9mm is a Glock17. It has served me well but it may be time for HP to come out.
Question:
Should I also perform the mag disconnect on the HP or leave it stock? Does it really make that much of a diff.
Will shooting the HP convert me?
OP...I would trust Casey (TacOrd) with just about any smithing job but he's a bit of a drive from you and he's a busy guy (for obvious reasons).
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I would leave it for a few hundred rounds and see how it feels to you. From what I've heard, taking the magazine disconnect out cleans up a lot of the grittiness in the factory trigger set-up as well as taking about 10-15% off of the pull weight. A great website about the BHP can be found on Stephen Camp's website:
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/
Thanks for the info.
ipscgraz
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I am glad to see you choosing a smith carefully. I picked the wrong guy once and wound up paying a real smith to replace and fit parts. BHP's have simple triggers but it was more than that bozo could figure out.
Live and learn.
Live and learn.
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I don't know how long you have been shooting hand guns for, or how many different handguns you have shot .
also don't know what reasons you have for not shooting the hi power .
I think the hi power is the perfect platform for 9mm, and originally didn't like it at all .
Until I shot a friend of mines I didn't know what I was missing .
id suggest to you, shoot it (as is) at least a couple rounds, like 1 box of 50 at least, and don't try to compare it to anything, just have some fun.
Feel how buttery smooth the slide runs, and how balanced and manageable the recoil is, and how it points naturally, and appreciate the hand crafted workmanship that you cant get from a plastic gun .
then if you can appreciate that, and you like it, that's when you might want to take out the mag disconnect to improve the trigger, then you will see how perfect it really can be .
I love mine, and of all the 9mm I have, and others ive shot, the hi power is my favorite, and the one 9mm I will never give up.
and that's saying a lot.......
"...after a couple hundred rounds it was perfect..." No it's not. You've just worn the parts.
"...Does it really make that much of a diff..." Think in terms of a steel hand attached to the trigger pushing on the magazine as you pull the trigger. That's pretty much what happens. Removing said hand also removes the requirement to overcome the friction it causes. Not a heat thing. Just a useless extra part that causes more pressure has to be overcome.
"...the proper sized punch..." May be a roll pin now, but it wasn't always. Just a wee tiny, itty bitty, solid pin in an Inglis. I believe 3/32 is right too, but you don't need to buy a set of special punches. I think I used the end of a geometry compass. Been a long time. Nor do you need to worry about parts flying around. Only the mag safety will come out when you take out that wee pin.
"...shooting the HP convert me?..." Into what? It's the same thing only different. You do lose the slippery feel of a Glock frame though.
"...the newer ones lacking..." Usually. Comes from frivolous U.S. law suits.
"...Does it really make that much of a diff..." Think in terms of a steel hand attached to the trigger pushing on the magazine as you pull the trigger. That's pretty much what happens. Removing said hand also removes the requirement to overcome the friction it causes. Not a heat thing. Just a useless extra part that causes more pressure has to be overcome.
"...the proper sized punch..." May be a roll pin now, but it wasn't always. Just a wee tiny, itty bitty, solid pin in an Inglis. I believe 3/32 is right too, but you don't need to buy a set of special punches. I think I used the end of a geometry compass. Been a long time. Nor do you need to worry about parts flying around. Only the mag safety will come out when you take out that wee pin.
"...shooting the HP convert me?..." Into what? It's the same thing only different. You do lose the slippery feel of a Glock frame though.
"...the newer ones lacking..." Usually. Comes from frivolous U.S. law suits.
After a day of chores I decided to fondle the HP. There it was at the back of the cabinet zipped in the black leather case with 3 mags. I don't remember the last time it saw the light of day.
With all the polymer and stainless HG's these days I've forgotten how gorgeous a blueing is on my HP! Black Sunshine...like you said the craftsmanship is outstanding.
It's heavy compared to my beloved G17 (I also shoot a S&W 460V & Ruger SuperBlack Hawk) but it feels solid in my hands. I'll have to adjust to the plain sights...I'm use to my Trijicons. Its definitely making the next range trip!
Here's a 5+yr old pic before I put on a set of Pacmayr signature grips
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With all the polymer and stainless HG's these days I've forgotten how gorgeous a blueing is on my HP! Black Sunshine...like you said the craftsmanship is outstanding.
It's heavy compared to my beloved G17 (I also shoot a S&W 460V & Ruger SuperBlack Hawk) but it feels solid in my hands. I'll have to adjust to the plain sights...I'm use to my Trijicons. Its definitely making the next range trip!
Here's a 5+yr old pic before I put on a set of Pacmayr signature grips
Very nice johNTO.
them old sights leave much to be desired, But I sure have come to admire the classic designs, and have a earnest respect for people that can turn out these hand crafted beauties.
there is a reason there still selling, and for a not so cheap price either.
them old sights leave much to be desired, But I sure have come to admire the classic designs, and have a earnest respect for people that can turn out these hand crafted beauties.
there is a reason there still selling, and for a not so cheap price either.
I goto Joe at Dlask arms sometimes he can be slow but that's due to high demand. He has even made parts for firearms that had broken parts and were discontinued ie you can't find any parts anywhere for any price. He just fires up the machine makes the part tests it to see if it works sometimes he even makes it 2 times just to get it right because the first one wasn't good enough. I've been very happy with the work he has done and don't go anywhere else. So far 6 firearms some custom builds some need parts some didn't work out of the box he did the repairs and building happy as a clam. When people sometimes complain about the price I go well what was he charging? I go really that's cheap because it costs X amount for that 1 part to make it and he is only making a tiny amount.
He has even made some cool protype type firearms ie custom builds.
He has even made some cool protype type firearms ie custom builds.
I had Dean Fraser add an ambi safety and do a trigger job on my new 1977 HP.
He doesn't like chasing parts so I got a C&S trigger a spring kit and the safety(Browning) , he did the hard part.
If I had to do it over I would have got the C&S hammer and sear as well,
but 4.75 lbs crisp is so much better than 8 lbs creepy .
He doesn't like chasing parts so I got a C&S trigger a spring kit and the safety(Browning) , he did the hard part.
If I had to do it over I would have got the C&S hammer and sear as well,
but 4.75 lbs crisp is so much better than 8 lbs creepy .
When it comes to HP's there's really just one name, Bill Laughridge at Cylinder and Slide. Shipping your gun to the US can be a super pain but you have 2 options. You can buy a hammer/sear/spring set that drops in with an excellent trigger pull, or you can go to Nebraska and take one of his gunsmith courses. The drop in kit would probably run you about what a smith would charge for the job.
