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Duck_Hunter

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I have a headspaceing issue in my rem. 700 chambered in .308 and want to get the firearm looked at. I was wondering if any of you guys could reccomend some good gunsmiths in Canada, preferably Ontario that could do what I'm looking for.
thanks.
-Brodie.
Maybe this will give me n excuse to have a barrel made for it (i can only hope):)
 
Ontario is big place. Could you suggest the general area? I presume that you don't want to mail the firearm.
 
Well I'm willing to mail it if necesarry or drive a good distance. I'm in North Bay right now and wouldn't mind driving to anywhere in southern Ontario or a few hours north of North Bay. As long as the quality of work is there, I don't care how the gun gets there.(Except the states)
 
"...only 1-1.5 hour drive..." More like 2.5 hours. However, Epps would be a good place to go. Go during the week if you can and call ahead. Busy place on week ends and you want to be sure the smithy is in.
What makes you think you have a headspace issue?
 
Funny, I'm sure I made it from North Bay to Epps in 1.5 hours last time I drove down from Here to Borden.....perhaps I was mistaken.....regardless, it's still worth the trip.....
 
gunasauras said:
Funny, I'm sure I made it from North Bay to Epps in 1.5 hours last time I drove down from Here to Borden.....perhaps I was mistaken.....regardless, it's still worth the trip.....
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2.5hrs, if there are no cops around, you would be getting poor fuel economy.
 
I believe there is a head space issue because after firing there is light colored band near the base of the case(noticeable), and the case stretchs about 0.010" so if I try reloading, eventually I'm going to burst a case or have a seperation. I am also lucky enough to hunt in the presence of some incredibly experienced benchrest shooters and the consensus is a headspace issue.
 
Since it is a bolt action rifle, you can always just neck size the case. This will not push the shoulder back the .01" that it stretches from being fired in your rifle. You cannot use that brass in any other rifle until it is full length resized though.

I get light coloured banding on most of my brass through most of my rifles. I check the inside with a paperclip and a flashlight to assess the amount of stretching. Yes, I am full length resizing because most of my stuff is semi.
 
Ripstop said:
Since it is a bolt action rifle, you can always just neck size the case. This will not push the shoulder back the .01" that it stretches from being fired in your rifle. You cannot use that brass in any other rifle until it is full length resized though.
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X2 on that one!! :)


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but as the case stretchs and you trim the case back to length after firing, you are removing brass. This brass is flowing from somewhere?This somewhere is the light banding that you see. Therefore after trimming the case numerous times the case wall thickness will decline where the banding is, eventually resulting in a burst or seperated case. This is why I would like to have the problem resolved. If aren't planning on doing alot of shooting I'm sure you wouldn't encounter any problems, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it.
 
There is a very good chance the headspace of the rifle is correct. This can only be determined by use of steel headspace gauges. There is a minimum and maximum amount considered to be acceptable.

If you are reloading, it is very easy to create excessive headspace in the catridge you size.

To set your sizing die properly it needs to be adjusted so a sized empty case when tried in the rifle, causes you to feel the bolt close on it. If you can close the bolt easily on a sized empty case, you have created some headspace. This is best tested for feel when the bolt has the ejector and firing pin removed.
 
The band on the cases is noted on all factory ammunition (different types)I've fired out of the gun. Could I still not have a headspace issue if the band occurs with factory ammo? (I have also split a neck on a factory cartridge, not sure if that means anything at this point)
 
Give Jeff at Valleygunsmithing a call, he is in Petawawa, Ontario...about 2 hours east of NorthBay.

I will pm you his e-mail and phone number.
 
Factory ammo is sized to fit every firearm in that caliber. Some have more headspace than others. The dies you reload with are sized to the specs. of factory ammo. Rifle chambers are not always to factory specs. To quell your suspicions, get the headspace checked. I think that if you were to neck size only, you would find that the cases do not stretch anymore.
 
You can check what the headspace is with the ammo you are using by putting layers of scotch tape on the head of the case. Remove the striker assy and the ejector then apply tape intil you can definitely feel the bolt closing on the cartridge. The tape runs approx .0015" per layer.
Now, this only tells you what the headspace is with that particular cartridge and tells you nothing regarding the rifle's headspace related to the saami specs for the cartridge. That can only be determined by the use of a proper headspace guage as stated by Guntech.
If, by using the cartridge/tape method, you show .009" of headspace, you can be pretty sure it is excessive with that cartridge if nothing else. Regards, Bill.
 
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