I have not used the topper,but have used the pardner and it is not a treat in any way to shoot any amount. Truly a hunters gun for a couple shots in an afternoon and a gun to last a lifetime but not shoot constantly. But i to looked at this gun as it does pack on that extra weight and have a fair sized recoil pad. these guns i dont think are made for major amounts of fun but to get the job done when it needs done. h&r makes a solid quality product but I'll stick to something a bit heavier if shooting 12 ga forn sure