HandGuns...once and for all.

My vote for one pistol only would be a Glock 20. Glock reliability and the polymer frame, ability to attach a white light, Glock 20 design really tames that powerfull cartridge. 10 mm goodness!.....cartridge is powerfull enough to drop most critters given the magazine capacity and a quick change out of barrel an spring allows to shoot inexpensive .40 cal. plus you can get the .22 cal. slide conversions.
 
Black slide said:
I would like to Instigate a good old whats best.

I have relatively very little experience owning a hand gun. I personay like my Norc 1911 because its cheap, well built (have been told that they are forged from rail way ties)? and shoot well for $350.

There are many people who state that they are crap, poorly built and do not stand up the popular brands.

I am signing up for Black Badge and have been told "don't bring your norc as it will fall apart"... I personally doubt this.

Everyone rants and raves over glock, sig, cz, wilson combat.....

All I Would like to know is what Handgun would fit bill for a survival, accurate & durable weapon. What can you comfortably trust?

I can trust a Toyota over a chev, dodge or ford any day because it will keep going and going. I could care a less about how shiny it is or estheticaly pleasing.

Is A glock better than all other composites? if so why.

I am only interested in the common sense behind why.

Thank you for any response.
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I would use my Norks in a BB course if I had no other choice, but because I have a Glock17RTF that is what I'd probably use. If I shot IPSC here, I will use my Glock because 9mm is cheap and 45 ammo (even reloads and home cast heads) and/or brass is expensive. In another life, I shot IPSC with 45s.

There is nothing wrong with my Norks. The only failures to feed/eject on my 3 45 acp Nork 1911s have not been the fault of the pistols themselves.

Blame is on my reloads and old magazines. I used home cast Truncated Cone 230 grain heads from a Lee mold and that head would hang up on the barrel throat. Changed to Round Nose mold and voila!, no more problem with feeding. I replaced the magazine springs and followers on my 22 year old 8-rd Shooting Stars with 7 round Tripp kits, fixed that problem.

Increased powder charge on my reloads to near maximum, again, no more failure to eject or slide open after last shot.

My original Colt magazine is 100% reliable. All the original Norki mags worked perfectly with no mods, after fixing the reloads.

Anyways, prove your Nork 1911 is reliable and accurate enough before doing the BB course. The course is expensive, ($230 around these parts, about what my used Nork Commander cost) so you want to learn about IPSC, not fiddle with your pistol.

Regarding the pistols themselves, they are getting nicer to shoot the more rounds I shoot. The triggers have smoothed out, resulting in better accuracy.
The rough edges work themselves smooth so the pistol feels better racking the slide, just feels better all around. These Norks will only get better with regular use. Well, I have to admit the rough edges will take a thousand years to smooth out on their own through normal handling:D

And yes, I would have no reservation using any of my Norks for a survival pistol. Then again, I do not keep unreliable inaccurate guns, so any of my revolvers or SKS or CZ452 or Mossberg 500 will suffice for a survival gun.

Most knowledgeable shooters like or even love them. Even 1911 guru "NAA" likes Norks...and he owns every known 1911 variant there is.

Some guys deride the Norkie 1911, but please take negative comments on Norkie 1911s with a grain of salt. You will note that many of these Norkie 1911 detractors have not even owned one. A few unfortunately owned lemons (haven't we all?), or just didn't do the bare minimum when they got their Norks, like give them a good total strip, clean and lube.

I am happy there are those who do not like Nork 1911s, or who have moved up to better 1911s. Otherwise, I would not have been able to buy my Norks cheap. I am so cheap that I have to wait for cheap Norks on the EE.
 
Shoot your norc mine is 7 year old and going strong. Start saving money and buy some thing bether in a little while.

If you have problem with your norc, prety much all 1911 part will fit in.

Might not be the best for those thing since it's single action, but you will save money!
 
For a "Survival" Handgun that will always work and is reasonably accurate, the Glock is the winner, hands down. The Smith &Wesson M&P is a close second.

For IPSC I like the CZ75 or a Browning Hi-Power, but that's just me.
 
acm said:
s**t! I didn't realize we could put "once and for all" in our thread titles! What're we gonna talk about once this is finally put to bed??
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HAHA I thought that would get everyone's attention.

I appreciate all the response and everything stated so far is as expected.
It's nice to hear someone talk about Glocks for their reliability or Sigs for accuracy rather than the typical..." don't buy Chinese"....

I personally try not to buy anything from China except a few Norinco firearms.

I read an interesting article / forum last night where tones of people feel the SW MP9 is the new Glock - only better.

What do all the Glock / MP9 owners think?
 
"Survival" this is how I look at it. If the world more or less ended do to conflict/WW3 production would also stop sooner or later. So if the issue was kinda like the game Fallout3 where you needed to survive. I would say both Glock & the 1911 would be the way to go. The US market is flooded with 1911 guns & most law enforcement in Canada is using Glocks, plus the fact that alot of civilians here like Glocks would add to flooding the market in Canada. So I would go both Glock & 1911.

I'm a 1911 fan but if I had to give someone that doesn't know much about guns a handgun to defend them selves in a survival situation my choice would be a Glock easy to use & not alot of parts to make it work i.e. no safety
 
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