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LawrenceN

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I have a Mod.100 Winchester for which I'd burned up a lot of powder and bullets in an attempt to find a good hunting load. The thing is VERY finicky with ammo but I found that it gave me a decent group using 150 gr. Hornady SP (#3031) on top of 45 gr. of Accurate 2495, so now I had my "go to" deer load. I later acquired one of the new Mossberg Patriot combo rifles and commenced finding a sweet-spot load for it. In a perfect world (for me), I would have gotten a good group with the same load that Winchester liked, theory being that I could take a semi and bolt deer hunting and only have to load up one box of ammo. Alas, it wasn't to be. The groups didn't make me happy at all since it grouped about 2"-3" at 100 yds. Undaunted (but a little pissed off), I tried some other reloads that I'd worked up as "just in case" loads. I had some Berger 155 gr. VLD left over from the Winchester trials so I decided to see what they did in the Mossberg. Check out the pic! The load is 43.5 gr. IMR4895, Winchester brass and CCI 200 primers. Since I'd used up the last of my Berger bullets I had to hit Ellwood Epps to pick up some more but now I have a load that I'm happy with. I do have one question though. Have any of you guys used this bullet on game? The box says "recommended for hunting, but also excellent for target" and I assume Berger knows what they're talking about. For now, have a peek at what it does.
 
LawrenceN said:
Not so!! I knew as soon as I pulled the trigger that I'd flinched a bit. Had I not, the group would have been 1".
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Lol....classic excuse.

Next it'll be that the wind kicked up a bit.

Personally, if you think you have a 1" gun, but can only ever produce 2" groups for whatever reason, then sorry to say, you don't have a 1" gun (or a 1" handload for that matter)
 
Jay said:
I really like the Model 100, if I find a nice one, it will be mine!

Cheers
Jay
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Lots of luck in finding a good one. They are around as I see them constantly at the local gun shows, and they seem to range from $550-$750, depending on whether or not they're glassed and the general condition. Having bought and sold several, I hope you won't mind a few pointers. Firstly, find out if the free firing pin upgrade has been done. Secondly, no matter what it looks like, see if you can get an idea of a general round count and how well it has, or has not, been maintained. As with any semi, the gas system needs special attention to prevent fouling build-up and corrosion or pitting. I love mine and I was very lucky in finding it. The owner had put one box of shells through it back in 1964 and it had been unfired since so what I got was essentially a new/old rifle and for a very nice price. As I'd mentioned, they're picky regarding ammo depending on what you are regarding as "acceptable" game-getting accuracy. To break them down for cleaning, you need a little mechanical know-how, a 1/16" punch, and fine needle nose pliers are also a big help.
 
Ive had nothing but sub par accuracy with the few Model 100's that have come through my hands over the years. Enough that my confidence in them is non-existent.

The problem is always a shifting POI the more you shoot it and the hotter it gets.
 
Steyr101 said:
Ive had nothing but sub par accuracy with the few Model 100's that have come through my hands over the years. Enough that my confidence in them is non-existent.

The problem is always a shifting POI the more you shoot it and the hotter it gets.
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I learned something about hunting rifles many moons ago. Military rifles are designed for sustained fire so taking one to range and blasting off 30 rounds or more is just fine. Hunting rifles, on the other hand, are designed for one or two shots at a time. When I sight in a hunting rifle, I don't touch off more than 5 shots without letting it cool down for a while between relays. You're bang on about the shifting POI when the barrel gets too hot. Just a little something that a lot of guys don't factor in when getting ready for hunting season.
 
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