Hatsan MPA Semi Auto - Viable 3Gun Shotgun On A Budget?

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Hey guys,

I've been thinking of getting my Black Badge and eventually signing up for 3 Gun. Just been weighing my options for firearm possibilities and came across the Hatsan MPA. At first I shrugged it off thinking it's just another generic unreliable semi auto, but it seems to hold up pretty well. There's just not a whole lot of information on it. With some basic DIY mods and upgrades, do you think the MPA has any ability to compete amongst the Versamax, M2 and M4?
 
I'm interested to hear about this too. I think durham outdoors? sells extended mags..... I'm considering three gun as well Joe.
 
I have one and it has been Great. Have run ~500 rounds through it, slugs/buck/field loads.
Only complaint I have is that the load ramp is a 2 piece where the middle needs to be pushed in first - could slow down speed loading. I am planning to mod it, once I have some time.
I put a +3 extention and blocked it to fit 5.9 rounds of 2-3/4".
 
It'll get you started and "in the game," so to speak. I've been using one for 3 years now and it runs fine. I've had a couple or three FTF's over the years, but that's not a shocking number - 3-gun is incredibly hard on gear, and everything will jam eventually.

If you want to get super competitive, eventually you'll move to a Benelli M4. The M4 is a better gun on a number of fronts, but costs almost 10x as much. I'm not that competitive, so I'll stick with my Hatsan.

You won't be the only person on the course using it, they're fairly common. The reliability you get for the price is quite impressive.

A few notes:

As mentioned, the loading gate is sub-optimal. You can still double-feed, but you have to "hit it" just right slamming the shells in. You're never going to reload as fast as with an 870, 590, or Benelli M4.

Clean it often and keep it lubed. I strongly suspect that my couple or three FTF's over the years are cleaning related, because I'll skip cleaning sometimes after practising, forget about it, then wake up at 2am the night/morning before a match and remember (by which time it's too late). Again, this is somewhere that the Benelli will win - the Benelli's will run so long as you remember to clean them every few thousand rounds. The Hatsan, notsomuch.

Play around with different makes of shells. It isn't super choosy, but there are some shells they don't like. Winchester White Box, of course, will make them jam. Winchester White Box can make anything jam. Worst ammo on the market, avoid it like the plague that it is.

Replace the Telestock with something else. I would give the same advice for the Benelli. It looks cool, sure, but if you're shooting a lot, and fast, and from awkward positions (3-gun will check all three of those boxes), the Telestock with that partial cheek-rest will cause you grief. Especially if you have a beard and prefer to keep your whiskers on your face.

I only do 3 or 4 matches a year, and for shiznits and giggles, not super competitive, but have fun with it, and generally avoid looking like an idiot. Keep that in mind to put the above info in its proper context.
 
The MPA cycles federal 2 3/4 1 1/8oz target all day with no issues.

My piston sleeve was out of round, causing the piston to jam up. Easy fix.
 
I have had a few MPA-s over the years. Great guns!

The only issues I’ve had with them has been whilst shooting target loads. They don’t always seem to cycle the lighter loads but all in all are excellent value!

Good luck
 
Thank you so much for the advice so far guys. I'm likely to pick one up now.

A couple quick questions though. Do you guys use the stock sights for competition? Anyone use an optic with or without the sights? Does the sights co-witness with optics?

I've shot with ghost ring sights and I find them to be great for accuracy, but are quite slow for competitive shooting.
 
The stock sights are really good, and have fiber optic inserts front and rear, which make the quite easy to pick up. They're also easy to zero for slugs - depending on your matches, this can matter. Our club does 25 and 50 yard slug gongs from time to time.

I have also run it wirth a Vortex RDS. It doesn't co-witness, but that's not a big deal, the Vortex is more than reliable enough not to worry about BUIS. An RDS is WAY easier/faster for acquisition placing precise shots, especially for slugs.

However, I'm dumping it after tgis season (the previous 2 seasons I ran the stock sights). The problem is that putting an RDS on your shotgun throws you into the "Unlimited" class. This means you'll be up against the box mag fed shotguns, pistols with sights, etc. Basically the "high dollar" shooters with all the toys.

I'm tinkering with a box mag fed shotgun over the winter, so might be switching to that. Problem with thise guns is they're super high maintenance to keep reliable, so I'm not 200% sold on using them in a match (I've had a few, and keeping them tweaked and reliable has given me fits - you'll see a LOT of jams and failures of mag fes shotguns in matches - they're kinda notorious).
 
The stock sights are really good, and have fiber optic inserts front and rear, which make the quite easy to pick up. They're also easy to zero for slugs - depending on your matches, this can matter. Our club does 25 and 50 yard slug gongs from time to time.

I have also run it wirth a Vortex RDS. It doesn't co-witness, but that's not a big deal, the Vortex is more than reliable enough not to worry about BUIS. An RDS is WAY easier/faster for acquisition placing precise shots, especially for slugs.

However, I'm dumping it after tgis season (the previous 2 seasons I ran the stock sights). The problem is that putting an RDS on your shotgun throws you into the "Unlimited" class. This means you'll be up against the box mag fed shotguns, pistols with sights, etc. Basically the "high dollar" shooters with all the toys.

I'm tinkering with a box mag fed shotgun over the winter, so might be switching to that. Problem with thise guns is they're super high maintenance to keep reliable, so I'm not 200% sold on using them in a match (I've had a few, and keeping them tweaked and reliable has given me fits - you'll see a LOT of jams and failures of mag fes shotguns in matches - they're kinda notorious).

Thank you for your feedback. So, an RDS sits high enough on the rail where the sights don't interfere at all? I was curious if I would have to remove the ghost sights to achieve a clear sight picture.
 
Thank you for your feedback. So, an RDS sits high enough on the rail where the sights don't interfere at all? I was curious if I would have to remove the ghost sights to achieve a clear sight picture.

Not with the Vortex Sparc, anyway. Can't speak for RDS sights I haven't tried. Most RDS either come with different risers, or you can get risers for them, so you can adjust height to taste, and specifically to co-witness on an AR. The Hatsan's sights are way lower than on an AR, though, so you won't be able to co-witness with just about any RDS that I know of. Even if a little bit of the sights show at the bottom of the reticle, you'll natually "look past it" as it won't be in the sight plane of the dot itself (my experience with rifles where the sights just barely show at the bottom of the reticle).
 
I have one and it has been Great. Have run ~500 rounds through it, slugs/buck/field loads.
Only complaint I have is that the load ramp is a 2 piece where the middle needs to be pushed in first - could slow down speed loading. I am planning to mod it, once I have some time.
I put a +3 extention and blocked it to fit 5.9 rounds of 2-3/4".

Is the receiver stamped 2 3/4 or 3"?
 
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