have LT ATT but no reg cert yet. no trip to range, right?
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Wrong. How did you get it home? If you were given a transfer doc by the store and issued an ATT to bring it home, any documents they gave you must be considered "the registration" until the registration arrives. Otherwise, they would have given you an ATT to commit an illegal act. There are a lot of people that think otherwise, however, using logic (I know it seems rare in Canada when it relates to guns) and their own paper trail, you will be fine.
it did. got a transfer number,
got a registration number for the firearm i'm carrying.
don't have the cert.
quickly read the att. and it does say that i require reg. cert. so no range trip, in short...
i'm in alberta. (my ATT came super quick though.. by email. i don't know why they couldn't send reg. cert. the same way.)
I had this exact same question that I posed to the BC CFO this week on the phone. She said:
YES, you can go to the range with just the transfer letter since it contains the new registration number.
and if you have the proper ATT. In BC my LTATT states any restricted firearm that I am alllowed to have. So the LTATT + the transfer letter works.
YES, you can go to the range with just the transfer letter since it contains the new registration number.
and if you have the proper ATT. In BC my LTATT states any restricted firearm that I am alllowed to have. So the LTATT + the transfer letter works.
That may not help is he/she gets pulled over by an officer that expects to see the actual registration paperwork.
Unfortunately these types of situations are left to interpretation.
coldestcanuck
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I got the exact opposite answer while standing in the BC CFO office on 2 separate occasions. The difference may be that my att says any restricted for which I posess the reg cert. I've never heard of one that says any restricted that I am allowed to have.
digital-audiophile
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How many times have people here actually been asked to show their paperwork when going back and forth to shoot (pulled over by Law Enforcement, asked to show at a range etc). I know we need to have it with us when we travel with a restrcited, but I'd really be curious to see some cold hard numbers.
I'm pretty sure I have the same LTATT as you do but don't have it in front of me. I trust we have the same wording.
It is sad that even the CFOs in the same office have different interpretations of it.
I wonder if any police officer who has not already dealt with a firearms call would know the difference between the two pieces of paper. As the CFO told me, they have the same information. It has my name, it has the registration number and make and model and serial. I can show the officer the serial and I have my ID. And the letter does say the certs are being mailed to me.
One would hope common sense would win out. (You need not respond to this as we all know how common sense is not common)
I suppose one would have to weigh the chances of being pulled over and getting the wrong officer on the way to the range.
Exactly ! And that's what the Ont CFO told me as well. You will be at the mercy of the officer.
BUT - From the CFP Officer's Field Manual
Doesn't mean you won't have a problem though. This could be interpretted to mean from initial purchase and not for day to day use until the certification arrives.
I called the BC CFO 3 weeks ago, and they told me that I had to wait for the registration in the mail. It only took about 5 days though.
IMO, better safe than sorry.
coldestcanuck
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- lower mainland bc
anybody ever get a ticket for not having your drivers license or insurance papers with you? Cops can check all that info on their computor too but, you still get the ticket. Same thing for a reg. cert. except the penalties are more severe.
When I picked up one of my pistols a while ago I called the AB CFO and asked if I could go to the range using the buyers copy as temp reg cert and the information officer said yes you can but you can always call the AB CFO and ask and all they can say is yes or no. So long as you have your LTATT you should be good to go.
Not an answer to your question, but I would hazzard to guess very few.
But, when was the last time you were asked for your vech registration, that was not at renewal time? Yet you still always have it with you or your car.
Shawn
I swear to God we gun owners are worse than the anti's. They have one goal, take our guns away. We seem more than willing to invent rules and problems, we complain about the RCMP doing the exact same thing. They cannot give you an ATT to do an illegal thing, transport a gun without the registration certificate, so the numbers and they do give you act as the registration until it arrives (like mentioned in the CFP Officer's Field Manual above). Fearing an uninformed officer is by no means an excuse to neuter ourselves, having the info handy to educate them is. If you are in fear, just print that blurb from the CFP Officer's Field Manual and carry it with you until your registration arrives. Geez.
